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Post by Forever_Kaos on Feb 6, 2012 13:06:43 GMT -5
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Feb 6, 2012 14:26:51 GMT -5
lol I even commented on that thread too. Totally slipped my mind .
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Feb 7, 2012 16:37:36 GMT -5
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Post by cairo1 on Feb 7, 2012 23:44:31 GMT -5
if it gets 400 FPS with 134a, then it will be astranomical with green gas.
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Post by raffles on Feb 13, 2012 19:40:29 GMT -5
I'm liking the sound of these. Affordable rifles! Now if only they weren't gas, I mean you have to cock a K98 every shot anyway so why not spring?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 14, 2012 2:07:20 GMT -5
The bolt action without a spring is silly smooth and relatively effortless.Frankly much more like the action on an actual bolt action rifle., The sharp and louder report from a gas gun is also an advantage. Obviously along with those upsides are all the downsides that come with a gas gun. at these lower potential prices I'd be interested even for a gas gun if they prove reliable and durable.
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Post by cairo1 on Feb 14, 2012 3:03:09 GMT -5
IMHO the tanakas are not durable, so thease cant be much worse.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Feb 14, 2012 8:46:40 GMT -5
IMHO the tanakas are not durable, so thease cant be much worse. Wait since when are Tanaka K98s not durable?
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Post by cairo1 on Feb 14, 2012 16:32:36 GMT -5
for one, their receivers warp from working the bolt, i had one where the hopup chamber shattered into 14 pieces. i was luckily able to piece it back togetehr and superglue it into place. it works fine now. i have seen G33/40 bolt knobs fall off, and be pulled off with little or no effort. one bolt we have degraded so far it rendered the rifle unusable. we scraped it for parts.
don't get me wrong, i think they perform great. Its just that i find durability lacking. they are made of cheap pot metal, and will decline overtime. if zeta makes them out of aluminum, or a higher quality Zinc alloy then Tanaka, then i would ratehr put my money into one of them instead.
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Post by mccallion on Feb 14, 2012 20:34:45 GMT -5
cairo1 there are many factors to why tanaka k98's malfunction, usually its user error for example useing green gas in one, there made for hfc 134a gas and anything more powerful will do alot of damage to the rifle
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Feb 15, 2012 16:08:07 GMT -5
^Could that be the problem Cairo1?
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Post by aj czarkowski on Feb 15, 2012 17:41:36 GMT -5
You might be thinking of the marushin, the tanaka kar98 is meant for hfc22(green gas). Over time the bolt does Guy on a short bus itself and warp the reciever
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Post by drunkalbertan on Feb 15, 2012 18:07:55 GMT -5
I find with my Tanaka, I don't pull the bolt back all the way. Just a flip up and back about 1" is all I need to cycle the round. I imagine though if one pulled the bolt back sharply as you would it's RS counterpart, this forceful action probably would break bolt handles and knobs.
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Post by cairo1 on Feb 17, 2012 2:05:17 GMT -5
Yes we use Green gas, we have models restricted for green gas use. (the ones with the 3rd type Air nozzle.) and regardless, threes no way the using green gas would effect the warping of the receiver, the bolt knobs or the entire rear Assembly for the rifle. the rear Assembly being where we have had the most fatal damage. the damage really occurs from constant opening and closing of the bolt. the killer problem lies in the piece used to stop the bolt from turning when the action is open.
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