petermartin14
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Post by petermartin14 on Sept 17, 2010 5:59:36 GMT -5
A young Jack "Keith" Idema in the making....look him up...lol lol at least its a wanted poster
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Adler69
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 21, 2010 2:50:04 GMT -5
US ARMY , Germany , 1970's
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click
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Post by click on Sept 21, 2010 13:11:04 GMT -5
I thought the army didnt use camo outside Vietnam until 1980ish. Got some pics? ;D
I like the impression though. It looks like a Marine in-country late in the war.
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Post by Fusilier on Sept 21, 2010 14:22:12 GMT -5
I think the only units to wear camo post VN were the Marines,82nd and 101st. And it was ERDL,it was the set that was similar,called the RDF pattern. Similar to ERDL,but with straight pockets and more brown in the pattern. I had an experimental pattern when I was in in the mid 80's,I have a pic of me wearing it,I should scan it and post it.
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Adler69
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 22, 2010 0:00:41 GMT -5
In January of 1973 1st Battalion 13th Infantry Regiment received ERDL uniforms for testing the uniforms in Germany to possibly issue them to the entire US Army forces in Germany , however Tropical Jungle uniforms where not the best choice for the German weather. I do my research like i said many times before starting an impression . By the way RDF refers to the cut of the uniform not the camouflage pattern , RDF uniforms where made from Green Dominant ERDL as well as Brown Dominant ERDL camo.
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click
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Post by click on Sept 22, 2010 15:21:44 GMT -5
No worries Adler. I have no doubt that you research your impressions. YOu always post good reference photos, I wanted to see what you had this time.
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Post by Fusilier on Sept 22, 2010 19:36:55 GMT -5
Dude,I'm not calling you a liar! I was basing my points on actual experiences and what I saw,and the research I have. BTW,the example you give was a test unit,not the whole of USAEUR.
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Adler69
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 22, 2010 23:53:26 GMT -5
Dude,I'm not calling you a liar! I was basing my points on actual experiences and what I saw,and the research I have. BTW,the example you give was a test unit,not the whole of USAEUR. And my research confirmed that US ARMY personnel in Germany where issued ERDL and if you READ MY POST you will notice I NEVER MENTIONED THAT ERDLs WHERE ISSUED TO THE WHOLE USAEUR.
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Post by Fusilier on Sept 23, 2010 9:21:31 GMT -5
I DID read your entire post,I was just reiterating it.
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2nd Bat
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 23, 2010 16:53:16 GMT -5
The Vietnam era ERDL jungle fatigues (slant pocket ripstop) were also issue items for Ranger units from 1976 and continued to be commonly worn through the early 80s. They were replaced by the RDF uniforms as they became increasingly available.
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Post by Fusilier on Sept 23, 2010 17:39:24 GMT -5
The Vietnam era ERDL jungle fatigues (slant pocket ripstop) were also issue items for Ranger units from 1976 and continued to be commonly worn through the early 80s. They were replaced by the RDF uniforms as they became increasingly available. >> Right. MOSTLY the airborne units in the Rapid Deployment Force such as the 2 Ranger Bat's. 82nd and 101st Abn. and assorted SF units. I was also issued Vietnam OD jungle fatigues and boots while I was in in addition to BDU's.
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Post by zoidberg20 on Sept 23, 2010 21:03:05 GMT -5
My Russian VDV outfit, Izlom Patteren uniform. Smersh AK Regular Set. Don't mind the balaclava, couldn't find my normal 3 hole black one And one pic of my Russian weaponry ;D
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Post by geostormz on Sept 24, 2010 0:49:52 GMT -5
Adler69, your collection is extensive (bow) Here is two of my non WWII set up that I sport for some airsoft game. First off is my ARVN National Guard setup. My old man serve as a ARVN National Guard officer before transfering to the VNAF, I constantly bug him to get the right impression. Uniform: OG107 Gear: M1956 Pistol Belt, M1967 canteen cover, US .45 Holster, M16A1 7 slot bandoleer, Jungle Boots. Next up is my East German NVA Rain Drop Camo Uniform: Raindrop Camo Gear: Raindrop cammo ammo pouches, canteen, backpack; Nylon web belt and Y-strap.
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Post by flectarn on Sept 24, 2010 16:50:57 GMT -5
My Russian VDV outfit, Izlom Patteren uniform. Smersh AK Regular Set. Don't mind the balaclava, couldn't find my normal 3 hole black one I wouldnt quite call that a russian vdv impression. Smersh's are very seldomly seen with the vdv and if you're trying to be authentic ditch that patch. Some appropriate material for a vdv impression. However, Im assuming you're basing your impression off this?
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Post by zzs8mm on Sept 24, 2010 17:40:35 GMT -5
Whether Korean, Vietnamese, or Taiwanese, all of our uniforms are the nearly identical since we were supplied by the US.
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Post by geostormz on Sept 24, 2010 23:56:57 GMT -5
Whether Korean, Vietnamese, or Taiwanese, all of our uniforms are the nearly identical since we were supplied by the US. Yup, which is why its so easy to do an impression for each country with simple uniform . The only thing that I gripes about is that the Korean uses different duckhunter uniform, not by much though.
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Post by zzs8mm on Sept 25, 2010 13:11:57 GMT -5
I haven't seen duck hunter uniform used by Taiwan yet. I think I have seen only on the helmet covers...
I want to start on a Reserve troop impression. All I need is a Japanese helmet and dark green puttees lol. I think they were using the old Mausers brought along with the mainland in the early 1950s.
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gadge
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Post by gadge on Sept 27, 2010 12:15:01 GMT -5
Adler69, your collection is extensive (bow) Here is two of my non WWII set up that I sport for some airsoft game. M16A1 7 slot bandoleer, Jungle Boots. Next up is my East German NVA Rain Drop Camo Uniform: Raindrop Camo Gear: Raindrop cammo ammo pouches, canteen, backpack; Nylon web belt and Y-strap. ] Not bad, is the cap an east german one, you usally see side caps mind you. Boots btw should be worn *inside* the rain drop camo trousers not inside if you want to get the authentic look.
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Post by geostormz on Sept 28, 2010 13:46:09 GMT -5
zzs8mm I have very limited knowledge on the Taiwanese uniform, other than some of their modern stuff. I would assume that they use a lot of leftover gear from mainland. gadge Thanks for the tip, I just though it might look cooler
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Post by zzs8mm on Sept 28, 2010 17:52:13 GMT -5
Well, if you mean 1949, yes somewhat. A few million soldiers brought the only belongings they have and that was the uniform they had on their backs. I don't think there were any surplus uniforms brought back... I haven't seen any.
They continued to use the same type zhongshan uniform, but made out of HBT and dark green instead of khaki color after the early 1950s (although they did have the tan colored ones for summer wear). They started to switch to the American type clothing during this same period (the same type I am wearing in the picture I posted, used up until the 80s when they switched to BDUs).
I saw a picture of a large group of officers and some were wearing light colored uniforms, brown M1946 type dress uniforms, and a few that were wearing US type uniforms! It was all mix and match. It shows how they were unregulated even at the divisional level, especially in the early years (photo dated 1950).
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Adler69
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 29, 2010 16:45:43 GMT -5
Company D, 1st Battalion, 4th Marines S.S. Mayaguez boarding party '75. Still need a couple of 30rd M67 pouches to make this look perfect. 1989 experimental Argentine Army snow camo , made by a German company at the request of the Argentine Army , reversible to all white .
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Post by waldo on Sept 29, 2010 19:17:47 GMT -5
I've seen a few photos in The Last Battle by Ralph Wetterhahn that showed Marines wearing 3/4 collar flaks, have you seen that as well?
Nick
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Post by 5thrangerbat on Sept 29, 2010 19:44:10 GMT -5
An edited picture that I think came out really well Its a R.O.K soldier on the nak-tong
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Post by zzs8mm on Sept 29, 2010 19:54:32 GMT -5
5thrangerbat, good picture, looks real
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Adler69
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 29, 2010 21:44:58 GMT -5
I've seen a few photos in The Last Battle by Ralph Wetterhahn that showed Marines wearing 3/4 collar flaks, have you seen that as well? Nick Yes i have , but most of the Mayaguez boarding party was wearing M55s.
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Adler69
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 29, 2010 23:43:49 GMT -5
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Post by Adler69 on Oct 4, 2010 23:30:26 GMT -5
1987 , Afghanistan , Soviet Infantry with captured M16A1 .
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Post by zzs8mm on Oct 6, 2010 19:48:47 GMT -5
I think the M16 was captured from the American supplied resistance in Afghanistan?
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Post by Fusilier on Oct 6, 2010 20:19:02 GMT -5
Not for nothing,but where would they capture an M16 from? Last time I checked,the only thing we supplied the Muj with were Stingers and AK's from Israel via Egypt?
I have about a dozen books on the Soviets in Afghanistan,and never saw any pics of M-16's. But hey,I may have missed something somewhere.
Just asking..
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Adler69
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Post by Adler69 on Oct 6, 2010 22:00:56 GMT -5
Soviet troops had been capturing M16A1s from the Dushman after a couple of battles starting around 1987 , it was believed that "Black Storks" where operating dressed as Dushman fighters and fighting the Soviets , it wasn't until the Battle for Hill 3234 on 7-8 January 1988 that this was confirmed. Photo of VDV trooper taken in 1987 Enough ammo and magazines had been captured that some officers gave permission to troopers who had earned it to carry the M16A1 , the way i carry my magazines is the way they where doing it. Again guys , I DO MY RESEARCH , i don't pull this impressions out of my ass .
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