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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on May 8, 2009 10:10:51 GMT -5
Yes bosco, You described exactly all that I need to do. It really isn’t difficult to do either. Even the disguise part is relatively easy to handle.
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Post by maa on May 8, 2009 20:34:13 GMT -5
maa, you're right. I was speaking about the internal magazine of the TOP M60. You lift the top cover and pour BBs in. Raimund, I was thinking about your idea about the "BB hose". Nice idea indeed but there is one problem: in spring loaded magazines there is a little piece between the spring and BBs. This is called magazine follower. It is here to insure that all BBs are pushed out from the magazine. You can use a hose with an internal diameter of 8mm and 400mm long (eg.10x8 Rilsan hose - like those used in pneumatic - plus it is semitransparent). Make/buy a spring with an external diameter of 7mm and 500mm long. Build a mag follower (that can be a 8mm BB for instance). Place and glue the BB retainer on one end of the tube (you can use one from an airsoft mag tinkering about how to fix it). From the open end of the tube insert the mag follower and the spring. Close the tube compressing the spring. Voila 50rnds belt. Sounds like the way M249 Minimi with 200 round mag boxes are fed ? You would need to design and install an impeller motor and power source, then wire that to the trigger, and have the BB's fed through the internal hose with the external spring on the outside (BTW -- could never figure out why the external spring was placed over the internal hose). Then you can customize your snail drum mag this way. Sounds like a plan .. but how about reliability, as I understand there always are reliability problems with this type of design in BB misfeds.
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Post by oberst42 on May 8, 2009 22:21:43 GMT -5
idea, i might get some flak over this, at hessen they sell MG ammo cans, could we just buy a crapload of dboy shells and mod the MG42 to take the shells, and run them through like that, it would make it hard for MGs to just lay down endless sprays of suppressive fire and make soldiers with kar98's cover the gunner while he reloads
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Post by zbear on May 9, 2009 0:45:34 GMT -5
I built one to get over my MG42 mania, It will be interesting if the AGM mg42 gets to the USA
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Post by lrich on May 9, 2009 0:48:25 GMT -5
while that would be sweet oberst, 2 problems: 1. That would cost an insane amount of money (at a cheap $1 per shell, that would cost as much as the gun to have a reasonable amount of ready to fire ammunition (~400 rounds)) 2. The shells wreak havoc with accuracy. When i opened up the Dboy's the problem with the shells was that every time the bb was pushed out, the shell would give it a different spin. The hop could negate this a little, but not all the way. There have been shell fed guns, but the reason the majority aren't shell fed is the price of the shells. I would think dummy belts with a flexible tube of bb's running down the middle would be the best.
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Post by bosco on May 9, 2009 3:11:57 GMT -5
maa, I have yet to try it. But it may be worth a try. I could cannibalize the internals of a D-mag I have. By the way, to me the spring on the outside of the tube contributes to the stiffness of the tube. In never lets the tube to be pinched or bent as so to restrict the BBs passage. I'm converting a steel and wood replica so that will be one of the (many) problems to solve...
oberst42, great idea but there are so many complications in this type of design that I don't think that it will be possible. And lrich is right: accuracy bye bye!!!
And maa, You could always use the windings of a hi-cap modified to take a motor on its winding wheel. Place it at the bottom part of a Real steel drum, take a semirigid hose and there you go.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on May 11, 2009 8:22:34 GMT -5
You will need your assistant gunner to help with any jams in the hose feed. Usually, a jam occurs because the hose is bent just slightly enough to stop it from feeding up the hose. Simply have your assistant straiten the hose a bit. That is how I intend to use it anyhow.
I’ll have a neat demonstration of how this system could work at the game this weekend.
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Post by flectarn on May 13, 2009 19:12:04 GMT -5
Great ideas, It will work with enough skill to manufacture these items. My question is, where are you going to get dummy 8mm rounds?
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Post by bosco on May 14, 2009 8:27:51 GMT -5
I think that it is easier (and cheaper) to find DEACTIVATED 8x57 rounds instead of dummy rounds. As for the belt, there are so many reenactment stores out there...
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on May 14, 2009 8:35:07 GMT -5
You can get a belt (50 rounds) for 10 bucks. The deactivated shells can get expensive. I just happened to have 65 d-boy shells for my d-boy. So… I’ll use them for now. They don’t look all that great… but… they don’t look bad either.
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Post by hairy apple on May 14, 2009 19:17:01 GMT -5
Honestly... it might be cheaper to go buy a box or two or 8mm for a sporting goods store for your "dummy" ammo. Live bullets are pretty harmless without a gun.
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Post by lrich on May 14, 2009 22:54:23 GMT -5
Honestly... it might be cheaper to go buy a box or two or 8mm for a sporting goods store for your "dummy" ammo. Live bullets are pretty harmless without a gun. Actually, also if you are careful, you can deactivate them. Simply take the bullet, lightly clamp it, use a tool that wont damage the bullet to take the bullet out. Empty the powder and use a punch to fire the cap. With proper precautions this isn't that hard or dangerous. Of course, this is to be done at your own risk with proper precautions. Never have the bullet pointing towards you, always in a safe direction, as there is the small possibility you could create a spark and fire the bullet. Treat the bullets as if they were in a live gun and follow the same safety procedures. I would rather have someone do this than keep live bullets in a belt, as there is a distinct possibility that one could get hit by a rock and go off, and at close range, that could be fatal.
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Post by Adler69 on May 14, 2009 23:45:29 GMT -5
The safest way to separate a bullet from the casing is to use a tool called "Dillon Kinetic Bullet Puller" , i use mine all the time specially on old rounds for my 1891 Mauser.
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Post by bosco on May 15, 2009 6:45:42 GMT -5
Or you can have them turned from brass/bronze. Here are the dimensions: www.waffeninfo.net/mun_8x57.php (Maximum length, comprising bullet = 80mm) Obviously one has to have a friend with a lathe. As starting material you can use a 12mm bar (or for you using inches, use 1/2" bar). 50 bullets means using a 4 mt bar. I don't know if it is cheaper than inert/deactivated shells, because it depends on many factors (price of prime material, disponibility of a friend with a lathe, eventually cost to make them...)
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Post by 9thsshohenstaufen on May 21, 2009 8:19:04 GMT -5
Got my AGM STG-44 yesterday in the mail. Have not had a chance to play with it much, but overall, I am very impressed with it. It looks very good, has a nice weight to it, and seems like its got a good kick to it as well, ie. some velocity behind the shots. I opted for the wooden stock model. Also, it seems "tighter" then my AGM MP-40, a lot less slop and rattly feel to it. Overall, I give it a real thumbs up.
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Post by kalbs on May 21, 2009 9:44:24 GMT -5
My MP44 has become my AEG of choice with many games and kills. I even use it in non-WW2 games. With a few minor tweeks such pin replacement and some minor gearbox enhancements this AEG is a real performer. Good balance, solid build it's a winner. The only concern I have is the motor which of late has started to make some noise. I think I'll replace it with a Marui EG1000 before the next game.
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Post by krumlauf83 on May 23, 2009 5:03:58 GMT -5
Any news on the low caps for the MP44?
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Post by airsoftblitzkrieg on May 23, 2009 9:53:19 GMT -5
bought a AGM STG44 with real wood from airsoftgi.com
cant wait to get in mail...
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Post by Garrick Udet on May 23, 2009 19:03:38 GMT -5
They are nice, I just got mine last week. Replace the screws holding the wood stock in place. The ones that come with the gun are too short and narrow to be effective. I also had to put a shim inside the sleeve where the stock slides onto the rear of the gun to reduce wobble.
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Post by airsoftblitzkrieg on May 29, 2009 15:30:14 GMT -5
well...i received my STG-44 in the mail today, i have to say that it is amazing! lol
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Post by GermanShepherd on Jun 2, 2009 15:03:12 GMT -5
Hey guys just got mine in! I was looking for a muzzle nut, and a wood kit for it. I found the stock at IMA. But the grips were too hi, I might fasion those myself. But can anybody point me to a place where I can get the muzzle nut to replace the ugly orange plastic one???
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Post by sir veilance on Jun 2, 2009 15:44:16 GMT -5
Hey guys just got mine in! I was looking for a muzzle nut, and a wood kit for it. I found the stock at IMA. But the grips were too hi, I might fasion those myself. But can anybody point me to a place where I can get the muzzle nut to replace the ugly orange plastic one??? The grips are stamped in the steel! How would you replace them? Just paint them to look like wood. So yours came with a plastic muzzle nut? Mine was metal painted orange. The paint came right off with some paint thinner. I was hoping they wouldn't switch to a plastic muzzle nut like they put on the MP40
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Post by bosco on Jun 3, 2009 8:08:57 GMT -5
Any news about MG42?
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Post by Polski on Jun 3, 2009 16:15:50 GMT -5
According to rumors the AGM MG42 is definitely being worked on thanks in part to a successful Mp44. Release date is said to be as soon as mid-June, but as far as September 20th. -Sources: ArniesAirsoft and Rsov Forums. (Again, this is just chatter)
Polski
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jun 3, 2009 17:09:09 GMT -5
Put it on your Christmas list... if you haven't been naughty, then maybe Santa will be nice
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Post by 5thrangerbat on Jun 3, 2009 19:00:52 GMT -5
If the MG-42does come out for a good reasonable price and the quality is good then im putting that thing on my christmas list. /thinking of Christmas right now feels weird
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Post by TommyGunner on Jun 7, 2009 19:50:06 GMT -5
I saw this pic of a kid that was posted over on the WW2 UK airsoft forum. TommyGunner
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 7, 2009 20:31:08 GMT -5
I saw this pic of a kid that was posted over on the WW2 UK airsoft forum. TommyGunner WTF is that??? Some people just don't get it!
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Post by Warlord on Jun 7, 2009 20:37:19 GMT -5
Hey if they're selling, that's good for us either way you look at it. We can only hope that the recent success of this MP-44 will convince them to continue developing new guns.
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Post by Adler69 on Jun 7, 2009 20:46:56 GMT -5
The more exposure this weapons get the better for the WWII hobby , once the companies that produce this weapons realize that they can sell them to everyone not just the WWII guys they will start investing in other projects. By the way , i did try out a silencer on my STG44 i like how it looks.
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