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Post by mischief on Jun 7, 2009 22:32:45 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings on the guy in the picture, but agree that if its selling and can convince the companies to branch out then I'm good with that. I was going to use an MP44 for a modern OEF game. Being dressed like a muj and carrying on MP44 sounds just too cool...kinda
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Post by krumlauf83 on Jun 9, 2009 15:33:04 GMT -5
Any news on the AGM MG42 from China?
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jun 9, 2009 18:00:31 GMT -5
Any news on the AGM MG42 from China? I know this is a 13 page thread... but yes check page 12.
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Post by Cpl. Hicks on Jun 9, 2009 20:04:00 GMT -5
I saw this pic of a kid that was posted over on the WW2 UK airsoft forum. TommyGunner You know, I wouldn't be as... disgusted... if he didn't have the 101st patch...
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Post by lrich on Jun 9, 2009 23:30:39 GMT -5
You know, I wouldn't be as... disgusted... if he didn't have the 101st patch... Agreed, just too many wrong things going on there. As well what i find stupid is how he is holding the magazine. That is a recipe for disaster in most guns, by knocking the magazine, and in turn bullets, out of alignment with the bolt when it goes to strip a cartridge off, possibly causing a jam/serious problem. Magazine well=ok, magazine=big no-no (obviously in airsoft this doesn't happen, and in real steel it wont always cause a problem, but why risk it? And in airsoft, don't practice bad form)
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Post by Adler69 on Jun 10, 2009 0:21:15 GMT -5
Well a lot of kids and adults don't have the proper weapons training and just put an impression together ( usually modeled after some kind of bad ass guy on a photo) and go out there with the latest coolest gear and weapon . A lot of times at games i get a weird look from this kids when in the middle of a firefight i scream out "reloading" as i switch from an empty mag to a fresh one. I also see a lot of people in full German uniform and holding their weapon in the tacticool carry mode instead of the proper WWII German way.
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Post by krumlauf83 on Jun 10, 2009 9:22:42 GMT -5
Any news on the AGM MG42 from China? I know this is a 13 page thread... but yes check page 12. Yes I know..but read what Polski said: [/quote] to rumors the AGM MG42 is definitely being worked on thanks in part to a successful Mp44. Release date is said to be as soon as mid-June, but as far as September 20th. -Sources: ArniesAirsoft and Rsov Forums. (Again, this is just chatter) Polski [/quote] This is just a rumor and not real news, I need REAL news from China not rumors from European forums..
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jun 10, 2009 21:13:35 GMT -5
Rumors are all we get...
I don't think AGM and CYMA are using our board for market research.
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 11, 2009 12:05:37 GMT -5
Well a lot of kids and adults don't have the proper weapons training and just put an impression together ( usually modeled after some kind of bad ass guy on a photo) and go out there with the latest coolest gear and weapon . A lot of times at games i get a weird look from this kids when in the middle of a firefight i scream out "reloading" as i switch from an empty mag to a fresh one. I also see a lot of people in full German uniform and holding their weapon in the tacticool carry mode instead of the proper WWII German way. Very true! But most teens,and average reenactors are usually going to emulate modern fire and maneuver actions.they carry their weapons US style and react US Army/Hollywood style. I still see it from people who have been reenacting over 20 years! I don't blame these young kids, or adults for that matter for the way they carry themselves in the field and off, UNLESS they have been trained properly as a WW2 German,or American soldier,for that matter has been. Most of us who have been in the hobby for a long time are just as guilty.I've caught myself doing certain things I shouldn't. It's all in the training, and how authentic/realistic you want to be.
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Post by oberst42 on Jun 20, 2009 19:28:19 GMT -5
i hate when people hold the mag, thats why i pefer bolt-action rifes
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Post by kalbs on Jun 20, 2009 20:53:00 GMT -5
I disagree about your comments regarding the guy using the MP44 in a game wearing modern kit. It's obvious he's not trying to reenact but just play airsoft. I think you may have taken the picture out of context. I too mostly just like to play the game and not be dressed as a Dragon action figure all the time. If it's a game and competative I want what suits me the best for the location, weather and field type. It's a good testement to the AGM MP44 that it holds it's own against M4's and AK's. It is also hard to judge a person from one photo.
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Post by blackhawk11 on Jun 21, 2009 0:33:49 GMT -5
It is not the fact that he is wearing modern kit that is so enraging to us Kalbs. It is the fact that he is wearing the 101st Airborne (Air Assault) outside of the re-enacting scene. He has not earned that patch through his blood, sweat, and tears. He is most definitely not a member of the U.S. military, and is wearing a patch of an elite organization, that he has not earned, simply because he thinks that it looks cool.
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Post by stag on Jun 22, 2009 17:27:04 GMT -5
I wholeheartedly agree that sporting such badges in airsoft for "cool" is just plain silly and tells a gruesome tale about the wearer's fatheadedness...
...But is there really ANY point spilling your milk over something this insignificant in the bigger scale of things? Just a thought.
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Post by kalbs on Jun 22, 2009 17:49:44 GMT -5
It is not the fact that he is wearing modern kit that is so enraging to us Kalbs. It is the fact that he is wearing the 101st Airborne (Air Assault) outside of the re-enacting scene. He has not earned that patch through his blood, sweat, and tears. He is most definitely not a member of the U.S. military, and is wearing a patch of an elite organization, that he has not earned, simply because he thinks that it looks cool. Huh? These pages are full of guys wearing division patches who never served. It appears to me that he is wearing VN era greens with the white chicken. Maybe he normally reenacts VN. Maybe his Dad, brother or a family member served in 101st. Maybe he likes the 101st history. Point is, we should not judge a person from one photo and it is not done with any disrespect. Ask a Vet... I have no issues with it. You should be be complaining about his trigger finger if anything
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Jun 22, 2009 22:37:09 GMT -5
It's frightening to me how everything Kalbs says on these boards I agree with.
How is a kid playing airsoft wearing a 101st patch doing it any dishonor? I'm a vet too and I don't care if he does it. Heck, our country is founded on freedoms and he's not burning the flag. He probably has some connection to the unit either through a relative or because he respects the elite nature of it and wanted to honor it by wearing it. Lighten up. Instead of worrying about a lot of nonsense many of the chairsofters on these boards should be building units, organizing events, and heh, actually playing WW2 airsoft.
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jun 23, 2009 9:36:37 GMT -5
I'm wondering if that silencer is actually a tracer adapter. It kind of looks like an SRC adapter. Has anybody actually tried to put one on the muzzle threads on an AGM MP44 yet? If it worked it would be a great way to let the axis have a night battle-ready gun.
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Post by blackhawk11 on Jun 23, 2009 15:03:11 GMT -5
You are taking my words out of context. It is okay to wear the patch if you are re-enacting the unit. It is not okay to wear it just to wear it. I have every right to be upset. Most of my family has served in the military. Just because your dad or your grand-dad was in the 101st, that does not by any means give you the right to wear the patch if you have not earned it, or if you are not re-enacting.
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jun 23, 2009 16:48:54 GMT -5
I measured the muzzle threads after work today and it does appear that it is 14mm. I'm going to order a TM tracer attachment to see if it works. If it doesn't I know of a few folks with TM thompsons that could make good use of it.
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Post by Ersatzjack on Jun 23, 2009 17:11:33 GMT -5
Well Garrick, I hope it works. There's almost nothing cooler than night tracer fire. Had my first taste of it at Long Winter this year. ;D You'll have to lower the FPS on your STG though to use it, no?
Anyway - keep us posted.
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jun 23, 2009 17:20:42 GMT -5
I'm not sure, I'm relying on Shady to give me guidance regarding how to make it work since he has a lot more experience with those contraptions than I do.
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Post by kalbs on Jun 23, 2009 19:26:06 GMT -5
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Post by lrich on Jun 23, 2009 21:12:30 GMT -5
You could always make a HUTU (Hop Up Tracer Unit) to avoid any problems of not having enough tracer mags or anything. The tutorial is here (http://www.1st-sword.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=163), and i had no part in thinking this up, but i install it in my guns and it works quite well and is sweet. One trick i personally made up is to wire it into the wire coming from the trigger to the motor, so that it is trigger activated, so you never have to turn it on/off and there is no switch.
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Post by kalbs on Jun 23, 2009 21:45:26 GMT -5
Sir Irich.... now that is excellent!
The hop-up on the MP44 sits far into the outer barrel but it still may be possible. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jun 23, 2009 22:30:10 GMT -5
I'm planning on testing the muzzle mounted one at a modern game that starts at 3 am... don't worry, I'm not going to be going to a WW2 event in daylight with that on there. I was certainly considering another method. Since I have a second MP-44 on the way, I'd probably consider a more aesthetically pleasing solution for my primary one which I've weathered and am upgrading (to shoot slower).
As for the modern game I'm going as a civilian rebel, a left over from the war should be a fun touch.
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Post by maa on Jul 21, 2009 22:21:01 GMT -5
Okay .. I made a local recon trip just for you guys to Mongkok, Kowloon .. I stopped by the "dog" shop (remember that the word "dog" in Chinese is used in place of "gun" to curtail internet searches by the authorities in China) -- and they displayed a Mp-44. The same sales guy who told me about "June release" was not there; it was a different guy I talked to. I pointed at the Mp-44 and asked when will the Mg-42 be released. Without hesitation, the sales guy said .."not that quick .." in Cantonese. Since he's not a Mandarin speaker I didn't conduct a long interview as to why. However, I think this trip confirms the release, though "not that quick", is imminent. I happened to be headed for China later today and will be there for at least a week. I'll be shopping for more Thompsons since Hong Kong Thompson supply is still dried up. When I do, I will talk to locals to see if I can scrounge up any info. on the Mg-42 in country .. Stay tuned~!
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Post by armourerdoug on Jul 23, 2009 15:49:05 GMT -5
My MP44 came out of the box shooting at 460 fps with .2s!!!!!!! so i resprung it to 330 and its more accurate than most of my other WW2 guns (appart from my BAR! he he) i had to sand the orange stock and re stain and polish it, but its a great gun!!
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Post by cairo1 on Aug 7, 2009 19:27:44 GMT -5
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Post by ethan on Aug 7, 2009 19:53:17 GMT -5
is the MP44 a large or small type battery? and are there any extra low-cap or mid-cap mags? Why don't they think that people actually need those mags
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Post by kalbs on Aug 8, 2009 7:39:31 GMT -5
is the MP44 a large or small type battery? and are there any extra low-cap or mid-cap mags? Why don't they think that people actually need those mags 1. 8.4v AK stick type Battery 2. No, all magazine s are High Capacity type 3. Can't answer the way they think but I'm very happy that the China Gun manufacturers release a WW2 gun and that it was an MP44.
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Post by oberst42 on Aug 9, 2009 0:25:12 GMT -5
mg42?
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