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Post by tw4449 on Mar 13, 2010 0:42:57 GMT -5
Adler inspired me with his 'name that aircraft' thread, so here's a new one: name that gun. Rules are as follows: 1. You must give the (accurate) name and country of origin of the gun. 2. The winner gets to post the next gun. 3. The gun can be anything used in the 20th century. So no muskets or ray guns. 4. It has to be a gun used, or trialed by a country's military, in general or specialist use. Personally bought civilian guns DON'T count. Experamental guns DO count. 5. No using license-produced versions of another gun to throw people off. Example: a picture of a Norweigan M1914, which is practically indistinguishable from an M1911. 6. *added* TW4449 and Adler69 cannot give an answer for 12 hours after the question is first posted. That's it, so here we go... Name that gun!
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 13, 2010 1:01:58 GMT -5
Ingram M6 / M7 submachine gun in "Police" configuration from the United States. Manufactured by Police Ordnance Co between 1949 and 1952 , it was chambered for 9x19mm, .38 Super and .45 ACP.
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Post by tw4449 on Mar 13, 2010 1:04:18 GMT -5
Correct! (How'd I know you would be the one to get that? )
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 13, 2010 1:18:29 GMT -5
Alright , let's go with an easy one
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Post by tw4449 on Mar 13, 2010 1:23:22 GMT -5
The Halcon, model 1943, from Argentina.
*edit* added model year.
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 13, 2010 1:26:41 GMT -5
you got it.
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Post by tw4449 on Mar 13, 2010 1:29:15 GMT -5
One more time... (Let's let the other kiddies play, Adler. )
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Post by squirrelcat on Mar 13, 2010 11:33:21 GMT -5
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Post by tw4449 on Mar 13, 2010 12:17:27 GMT -5
Nope... sorry.
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 13, 2010 14:22:13 GMT -5
One more time... (Let's let the other kiddies play, Adler. ) Alright , i gave you guys 13 hours to answer this one , but i guess there is no interest in weapons , so i will answer TW4449's mystery weapon. It's a German Knorr-Bremse MG-35/36 light machine gun , developed by Hans Lauf an engineer from the Knorr-Bremse company which manufactured car brakes at the time. It was developed during the mid '30s for the German Army but it didn't do so good and it was used mainly for Machine gun training , at the outbreak of the war Waffen SS units where issued this LMG's , but as more MG34's became available the MG35/36's where turned over to SS Legions .
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Post by tw4449 on Mar 13, 2010 15:00:14 GMT -5
Absolutely correct... what doesn't Adler know?
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 13, 2010 15:33:51 GMT -5
how about this one?
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Post by tw4449 on Mar 13, 2010 23:37:00 GMT -5
Just checking... that IS a military issue rifle, right?
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 13, 2010 23:43:22 GMT -5
Just checking... that IS a military issue rifle, right? Yes it
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Post by tw4449 on Mar 13, 2010 23:46:33 GMT -5
Then it must be the Beretta Sniper, 1985, Italy.
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 14, 2010 0:14:35 GMT -5
Then it must be the Beretta Sniper, 1985, Italy. Remember your rule number one
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Post by tw4449 on Mar 14, 2010 0:26:59 GMT -5
Oops... Beretta Model 500 Sniper, Italy
(is that what I missed?)
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 14, 2010 0:30:49 GMT -5
Oops... Beretta Model 500 Sniper, Italy (is that what I missed?) Yes , but you are close enough , it's the 501 model. Your turn , again , looks like a 2 man game .
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Post by tw4449 on Mar 14, 2010 0:35:13 GMT -5
Oh well... better than 1 person.
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Post by tw4449 on Mar 14, 2010 0:37:32 GMT -5
Blame Adler... I'm having to play hardball.
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 14, 2010 4:25:29 GMT -5
Selbstladepistole Dreyse Model 1912 , in 9mm . Germany . It was designed by Louis Schmeisser for Reinisch Mettalwaren und Maschinenfabrik , which bought the Waffenfabrik von Dreyse company in 1901 after the von Dreyse company declared bankruptcy after a series of business failures.
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Post by tw4449 on Mar 14, 2010 6:33:28 GMT -5
Absolutely...
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 14, 2010 6:43:17 GMT -5
Alright then
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Post by Seff on Mar 14, 2010 7:27:50 GMT -5
Now that's interesting - it has a magazine that looks like it wasn't designed for that gun, because of the lugs on the side that don't touch the magazine well. I'm having a hard time thinking of a gun with a mag well that's completely horizontal that also rocks its magazine in place AK-style.
It's reminiscent of an RK-62 in layout, but I don't think the top cover comes off - rather, it looks like it hinges or disassembles on the pin just over what I presume is an in-triggerguard-safety. The handle and trigger guard looks inspired by an FAL. The receiver design reminds me of how an STG44 comes apart, actually. The charging handles is of G3 type, which is pretty much unique for H&K/G3.
The magazine looks like it COULD be 5.56x45mm, but given the shape of the folding stock and forward handguard, I wonder if this couldn't be one of the experimental caliber rifles of the 50s, before the 7.62x51mm was adopted as the NATO standard. In that case I would very carefully guess that it's a CETME modello whatever-became-the-G3 prototype. Maybe a G3 prototype, I dunno.
Random guessing FTW. :3
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 14, 2010 8:13:50 GMT -5
Now that's interesting - it has a magazine that looks like it wasn't designed for that gun, because of the lugs on the side that don't touch the magazine well. I'm having a hard time thinking of a gun with a mag well that's completely horizontal that also rocks its magazine in place AK-style. It's reminiscent of an RK-62 in layout, but I don't think the top cover comes off - rather, it looks like it hinges or disassembles on the pin just over what I presume is an in-triggerguard-safety. The handle and trigger guard looks inspired by an FAL. The receiver design reminds me of how an STG44 comes apart, actually. The charging handles is of G3 type, which is pretty much unique for H&K/G3. The magazine looks like it COULD be 5.56x45mm, but given the shape of the folding stock and forward handguard, I wonder if this couldn't be one of the experimental caliber rifles of the 50s, before the 7.62x51mm was adopted as the NATO standard. In that case I would very carefully guess that it's a CETME modello whatever-became-the-G3 prototype. Maybe a G3 prototype, I dunno. Random guessing FTW. :3 You are right on some of it , about maybe 80% , but it's not a CETME It is a prototype of a weapon that was used for a while.
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Post by Seff on Mar 14, 2010 9:22:35 GMT -5
I was gonna say something like Type 89, but that's still in use. A FAL prototype? Can't make that fit with the charging handle, though.
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Post by Adler69 on Mar 14, 2010 9:43:29 GMT -5
I was gonna say something like Type 89, but that's still in use. A FAL prototype? Can't make that fit with the charging handle, though. A prototype to replace the FAL.
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Post by Seff on Mar 14, 2010 9:57:19 GMT -5
So more like an FNC prototype? That would explain the 5.56x45mm magazine.
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Post by tinydata on Mar 14, 2010 10:18:31 GMT -5
A prototype IMBEL weapon? I'm guessing it's a prototype of the MD-2
Is it the MD-1? Prototype assault rifle made in Brazil in 1983. I can't find a picture but oh well
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