kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Aug 3, 2010 19:21:36 GMT -5
Getting back on topic,
I had a discussion last week with the cop9gun guys about China guns. Over the last nine months or so several manufacturers have relocated to Hong Kong and created partnerships locally creating brands such as APS (who makes nice AK's by the way). You probably have started seeing guns like the Sten and MP44 (now by Quality Power) back on the shelves and in some cases under a different brand name. Jing Gong and CYMA seem to be coming back on the shelves and look to Hong Kong for where it is being made now (my home... yes!)
Unfortunatly, cop9gun has never heard of the BAR or have they seen anything close to hitting the market resembling this AEG. Now, since this is a Matrix (Evike brand) I can only assume origionally an individual deal was made with Blackbear to produce this gun. Note that Blackbear website is gone. Maybe they too have relocated... maybe, but who knows.
On another note, don't count out the MG42 yet. There maybe good things on the horizon
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Post by Fusilier on Aug 3, 2010 20:39:56 GMT -5
I think I may finally throw in the towel on the BAR. I also still haven't heard a thing about the Are's PPSH! And now that I'm unemployed,I could use the money..:-(
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Aug 3, 2010 23:18:14 GMT -5
Considering you not working I would cancel the order for sure.
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Post by mash328 on Aug 10, 2010 15:10:33 GMT -5
WTF!!!!!!!!!!! smurf evike!!! i have canceled my order and will never deal with them again their customer service sucks!! and i feel way better buying applesauce from airsoftgi
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Post by Fusilier on Aug 10, 2010 19:13:56 GMT -5
I emailed them about canceling my order,and inquiring about the PPSH I ordered. Nothing yet..
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Post by CharleyNovember on Aug 10, 2010 21:50:40 GMT -5
call them...trust me on this call them...
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Post by Fusilier on Aug 10, 2010 22:49:36 GMT -5
call them...trust me on this call them... >> Will do!!
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Post by mdeevl on Aug 19, 2010 18:23:50 GMT -5
Just sent an e-mail to Evike for an update. Got this as a response: "Dear Customer, I do understand your frustration, but due to the complications with the company overseas, we have not been able to receive the item. Therefore, it is impossible for us to fulfill your order at this time. Of course, you may exchange the item or cancel it. Thank you for Airsofting and thank you for shopping with Evike.com. Your #1 Airsoft shop!" I followed up with a phone call, and, though very appologetic, they have NO idea when the BAR will enter production since it is a "limited custom order." If the project is 'officially' cancelled, they said that a refund would be automatically issued, and the BAR would be removed from their website. I am only in for the original $254.00, so I may stick it out a bit longer. *sigh* mdeevl
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Post by 2nd Bat on Aug 19, 2010 18:31:58 GMT -5
I suppose it is possible this company will eventually come out with the replica BAR promised and that it will in fact have a limited run and be discontinued in which case those sticking it out will end up being very glad they did.
I suspect, however one of two things will happen.
1. Eventually the realization that the rifles simply never makes it to production will mean no one ever gets this gun.
2. The other posible outcome is that eventually it is in fact produced and offered and goes over spectacularly and sells like hotcakes. Production gets caught up with the pent up demand and they eventually become readily available Probably somewhat improved from the initial groupings and at a somewhat lower price.
If #2 comes about, My hope and plan is to buy one or two then.
I really want to see this offering made vailable but alas my gut is suggesting otherwise. This has perhaps been the most disappointing airsoft offering and rumor yet perpetuated on the WW2 market. It further discourages me that a Garand AEG will ever be affordably made available. The affordable availability of a reliable and inexpensive Garand and BAR would do amazing things for our hobby. Very discouraging indeed.
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Post by Fusilier on Aug 19, 2010 19:16:58 GMT -5
I emailed them and they never returned my email.I ordered that AND the Are's PPSH. I have not seen either one, even though the PPSH has been out for some time. I will call them as soon as I can. Rest assured,I will never place an order with Evike again.
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Post by elder90 on Aug 19, 2010 21:33:53 GMT -5
I have always gotten my stuff from evike very promptly and never had a problem with them untill now this is odd for them
I have never placed a preorder though
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Post by volkssturm on Aug 20, 2010 19:30:22 GMT -5
I've always had good experiences with Evike, as well. But then I've never ordered anything like this. I suspect Evike is getting screwed by conditions in China, but they probably should have been a bit more upfront about the possibility that they wouldn't be able to fill the orders.
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Post by heckman328 on Aug 26, 2010 19:06:21 GMT -5
hey everyone this is my new account, old one is mash328, so i have finally got fed up will all the applesauce evike is putting us through and decided to take everyones advice and cancel my order! with the money i get back i plan on maybe buying one of 2nd bat's m1 garands or attempt my own garand conversion or attempt my own creation of a BAR using m14 internals
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Post by heckman328 on Aug 27, 2010 9:07:28 GMT -5
i have recently emailed evike, and they have stated:
Dear Customer, We have not received our shipment of the order, yet. It is still waiting to be shipped to us. The world expo that is currently taking place in China is still going on. Expo will not be ending until the end of October. We expect to get the shipment by November.
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Aug 27, 2010 20:42:46 GMT -5
Bah! China Expo my a$$$, Expo is until December by the way and each category of wares is in different months ie Toys and Games is in October, electronics in November and etc. China exports didn't shut down because of the expo, if it did the world would stop.
The future excuses will be the Autumn festival next then Chinese New Year, floods, earthquakes.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Aug 27, 2010 21:14:13 GMT -5
I agree it is bullshmite....
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Post by Fusilier on Aug 28, 2010 17:08:03 GMT -5
..and I still haven't gotten a reply..
Evike are crooks,plain and simple..
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Aug 28, 2010 18:50:43 GMT -5
I've read a lot of blogs lately where people have really been complaining about Evike and their buisness practices.
Off topic for a second; my sources here in HK state a China PPSh-41 is coming (based on the ARES) as is the MG42 towards the end of the year or early spring.
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Post by heckman328 on Aug 30, 2010 20:06:25 GMT -5
ya being the college student i was sick of waiting and cancel my order! i suggest other people to do the same this is a scam!!!!!
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Post by steeljaw36 on Sept 1, 2010 20:05:35 GMT -5
Ugh, tell me about it..... First I get scammed on a VFC BAR, now this preorder has gone on for nearly a year...the BAR seems to be a cursed gun for me, i'm debating weither or not to cancel my preorder..... On another note, for those of you wanting the Hexagon PPSH, go for it. Personally it looks and performs better than the Ares one, the only issue I have with it is the drum mags limited capacity (about as much as a normal hi cap...)
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Post by heckman328 on Sept 3, 2010 17:30:54 GMT -5
i will never ever order from evike, worst customer service!!!!
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Sept 3, 2010 20:43:31 GMT -5
Airsoft GI slams down the competion on this issue. I wonder who they are refering too?
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Post by steeljaw36 on Sept 5, 2010 16:02:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I can't imagine who they're reffering to...... Little update: The matrix BAR eta date has been pushed back to October now. Shocker, isn't it?
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Post by heckman328 on Sept 5, 2010 17:04:21 GMT -5
man that applesauce is a scam!!!! i have canceled it due to lack of information for the status of products. And like Tim from airsoftgi said its bullapplesauce that almost all if evikes inventory is on pre-order
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Post by relentlessmarauder on Sept 6, 2010 2:41:09 GMT -5
Yeah I hear you. I was going to order but now I actually have mixed feelings. You could have An all metal and wood. Bar with accesories and more mags for under 300$ but then again( pardon my rudeness ) it's going to take longer than the second coming of christ to get here . Here's hoping anyone gets the gun.
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Post by heckman328 on Sept 6, 2010 14:58:44 GMT -5
ya ik hear you too! i wish the best of luck of anyone that is still waiting on thier order. i was sick of the applesauce and canceled it and bought myself a hexagon ppsh instead!!!
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 6, 2010 20:20:34 GMT -5
I regret now that I hadn't proceeded with my BAR project as I had the base components all done and fitted and was just getting ready to build the molds. When the Matrix was announced I took a nasty loss on what I had done to that point and sold off all the components for what I could get. It wouldn't have been as nice as the pictures indicated the VFC clone was going to be but at an intended retail price of $500.00 it would have provided a reasonably affordable BAR.
I have to believe some one eventually will do up something along these lines and a BAR well below the price of the VFC will be available eventually. It has to make those with the wonderful VFC BAR feel better about their investment. I just can bring myself to spend that kind of coin on an airsoft gun.
Shame this Matrix deal just didn't come together. I had two on order but finally got tired of waiting and fortunately got my money back.
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Post by heckman328 on Sept 7, 2010 19:29:15 GMT -5
smart decision 2nd bat!! now you should attempt to resurrect your BAR project, because those BAR's would prob be as popular as your m1 garands you produce
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Post by Fusilier on Sept 7, 2010 22:00:04 GMT -5
I'm putting it here first, I will trade my Shoei MG-42 for a WORKING VFC BAR with extra mags.
There,I said it! lol!
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Post by heckman328 on Sept 8, 2010 16:13:27 GMT -5
damn man thats a good trade!! those things are mad rare, if i had the money i would totally buy one but being a college student makes money tight on the wallet and prob wont be buying any airsoft stuff for a while
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