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Post by tommygunner9 on Sept 7, 2013 12:35:10 GMT -5
Not sure if there's a thread on this already, but I thought it'd be nice to share. www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=15275$198.00 w/ free shipping. And it's spring powered. There's also a lot of coupons that can be used (but will replace free shipping) and it will come out a tad cheaper than $198.00
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Post by newcomer on Sept 7, 2013 13:15:14 GMT -5
160 dollars with 20% off for a spring nagant.
Gah must resist the urge to start a fourth project...
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 7, 2013 13:31:52 GMT -5
This is VERY VERY encouraging as obviously someone sees the value of building a non gas, bolt action, WW2 rifle that DOESN't eject shells. Hopefully the performance is decent. If so and if a Kar 98' Springfield and perhaps a ARISAKA and SMLE would follow we'd be in great shape!
I didn't see anything that cites FPS, mag capacity etc. and I noticed it is OUT OF STOCK. $198.00 is a wonderful price point if it works okay.
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Post by tommygunner9 on Sept 7, 2013 14:44:47 GMT -5
I just literally checked right now and it is in stock again. That's weird.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Sept 7, 2013 15:07:53 GMT -5
I checked and it's out of stock again.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Sept 7, 2013 15:13:49 GMT -5
Scoped version also available for $215.
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Post by stuka on Sept 7, 2013 16:20:08 GMT -5
i would guess 350-400 but it is supposedly vsr10 compatible
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 7, 2013 17:34:44 GMT -5
The stock VSR 10 from Marui shoots at only 290 FPS (w .20 gram BBs) however the Chinese Clones shoot between 390 and 420 so if it uses VSR Clone internals which would be logical (and awesome) that would be about right.
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Post by stuka on Sept 8, 2013 14:37:58 GMT -5
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Post by shiftysgarand on Sept 8, 2013 17:24:32 GMT -5
Now we need an ICS Garand clone.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 9, 2013 2:14:18 GMT -5
Hmmmmm. Why a clone? The ICS M1 Garand is very, very good. It is extremely doubtful you're going to be able to source and all wood and metal, quality AEG Garand for significantly less then the $350 to 400.00 they seem to sell for. Thats cheap considering it ACTUALLY works and is good for tens upon tens of thousands of trouble free shots and meets field power requirements. if there is anyway you can swing one of these you'll quickly relegate your Marushin GBB to the wall hanger or casual plinker it was designed to be.
I long for the event where both sides are primarily fielding the main battle rifles of their perspective armies. Kr 98s,Arisakas, Garands, carbines and Mosin Nagants.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Sept 9, 2013 6:03:57 GMT -5
Yes I know it is very very good, but it's too much for many players, including most of my friends. A clone would lower the prices of the gun, magazines, and with increased numbers, perhaps draw tacticool jockeys away from their M4s with 14 scopes. Also, they can sacrifice real wood for price, as long as it's decent fake wood people will buy it.
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Post by stuka on Sept 9, 2013 8:55:47 GMT -5
Plastic stock would help but i think they should have wood stocks for sale as well for those that wish to upgrade later on
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Post by shiftysgarand on Sept 9, 2013 16:32:13 GMT -5
Yeah, if it works out like the BAR with the ACM wood kit that'd be great.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 9, 2013 18:32:10 GMT -5
A plastic stock is not the ideal of course but I agree if it could lower the entry price point it would be a big plus. the tacticools are never going to be attracted to a long, heavy, low capacity, semi automatic rifle so it will always be a low production model and it's this lack of economy of scales that primarily keeps the price up. When your research and development costs have to be spread out among 1500 units instead of 15,000 those costs have to be recouped somewhere. Understanding only too well what those costs are I for one am extremely impressed they are priced as affordably as they are. This fact of course doesn't change how much a buyer has available to spend.
The lower cost of spare magazines, no need for green gas and more affordable 6mm Bbs duces total cost of ownership considerably. Given that I have now put over 15,000 rounds through mine with no performance issues whatsoever it ends up being a lot of bang for the buck.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 9, 2013 22:39:35 GMT -5
It occured to me as a moderator I need to remind others (and myself) to stay on topic. I'll drop and give myself 10 pushups. The topic needs to stay on the Red Fire Spring Mosin Nagant.
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Post by stuka on Sept 10, 2013 17:35:09 GMT -5
all the redfires have been restocked including the k98 and the spring mosins, hurry!
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Post by brownien on Sept 10, 2013 19:23:21 GMT -5
AHHHH!!!! *mad dash*
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Post by tommygunner9 on Sept 19, 2013 0:16:39 GMT -5
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Post by aj czarkowski on Sept 19, 2013 18:06:27 GMT -5
The spring powered ones are a let down. A bolt action rifle shooting at less than 300 fps is suicide
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Post by tommygunner9 on Sept 19, 2013 20:05:17 GMT -5
I agree ^
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Post by stuka on Sept 20, 2013 11:16:56 GMT -5
thats assuming it's accurate, the k98 is only supposed to shoot 400 at the most but i saw a vid and it was ~500 or so so who knows but apperntly my g-spec is only shooting 290 so at this point i am fine with the lower fps... well except the part where i have a 130 spring in it -_-
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 20, 2013 12:22:19 GMT -5
The Marui version which create an artificial kick are significantly less powerful at the muzzle then the ones without. You can of course remove this feature to increase your FPS. For skirmishing I would definitely recommend you dump the artificial "kick". i can see however how this feature might be considered cool for plinking and may end up being installed in some of these replicas. For springer bolt actions, based on my experience 400 FP or somewhere there abouts is the ideal as too much above that makes the cocking action too hard and too much below and you just can't compete.
(It's tough enough with a bolt action anyway). airsofting against AEGs with a bolt action really emphasizes the advantages the Garand and later G43, STG 44 presented as main battle rifles. It's a fun challenge however. team work and tactics is the key.
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Post by stuka on Sept 21, 2013 0:10:06 GMT -5
Um I don't think it has that, my best guess is the barrel since it's larger then usual but this helps accuuracy, at least thats my theory about the low fps
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Post by cdi on Sept 30, 2013 23:29:46 GMT -5
Alright so I purchased this gun from ASGI. Arrived today and I was not impressed at all. The brass pieces that should of been on the upper part of the hand guard were not present with the rifle. I loaded it up and attempted to shoot it. Nothing at all. It appears the trigger sear does not engage the spring on the bolt. ASGI wanted me to spend $40 to ship it back to them and that I will have to pay return shipping back to me. Told me they would have their techs look at the gun to see if it was missing the brass parts and not working properly. So I feel duped on the entire purchase.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 1, 2013 15:51:16 GMT -5
Yikes! that really blows on a whole lot of levels. Good to have the heads up. Keep us informed. Sorry to hear about it CDI!
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Post by stuka on Oct 2, 2013 10:06:08 GMT -5
isn't it vsr-10 compatible?
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Post by aj czarkowski on Oct 2, 2013 18:46:40 GMT -5
isn't it vsr-10 compatible? Unfortunately not, it appears to be a Zeta Labs clone
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Post by stuka on Oct 2, 2013 20:13:46 GMT -5
huh, Not even the hop up?
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Post by aj czarkowski on Oct 2, 2013 20:59:29 GMT -5
huh, Not even the hop up? Can't say I'm 100% sure, but I remember watching Jarek4's review on youtube. He said it was one of the crappiest hop-ups he's ever seen, and that he actually wasn't even able to adjust it good enough where he could actually shoot the thing. So I doubt it's a vsr11/bar10 hop up.
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