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Post by ssgjoe on May 15, 2014 15:01:11 GMT -5
But honestly, I don't like it when people use that f work too much.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 15, 2014 15:02:55 GMT -5
I'm trying to get the mindset of what a German soldier,who was recruited in c.spring '45,would have for gear right down to his personal affects.I can't wait to show my MP40 here when I get it,possibly tomorrow.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 15, 2014 16:11:35 GMT -5
I would say go more for a 1943 impression, people in 1945 pretty much had the same stuff.
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Post by insterburger on May 15, 2014 16:27:08 GMT -5
Joe, for the record, I'm not saying that every diversion from the norm is farb. What I am saying is that as a rule ordinary is the best way to go.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 15, 2014 16:42:37 GMT -5
Yeah. It's good. The only reason I wear tropical chevron is because I ordered an aluminum one and got the wrong insignia, I just decided to use the one I had. But my last comment wasn't directed towards you. It was directed towards the topic at hand.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 15, 2014 16:45:26 GMT -5
I might get these books for a more further look into it. linklink |
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Post by ssgjoe on May 15, 2014 17:47:02 GMT -5
You speak French?
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 15, 2014 17:54:09 GMT -5
That's what I was thinking.I plan on buying it on eBay.I'm itching to start on this loadout.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 15, 2014 22:31:09 GMT -5
It's a great experience. I love it. Very fun and informative.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 16, 2014 12:55:05 GMT -5
Pretty much I just want to pick out items that a soldaten would use and keep.Anything unnecessary won't be used like A-frame,frame bag,gas mask straps (I've seen images where they attached gas mask canisters on their belts without the straps),ect.I have a gas canister and a breadbag w/strap already but got a lot more to go!
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Post by ssgjoe on May 16, 2014 16:48:14 GMT -5
I see quite a few pics of soldaten without zelts. That's kinda low on my list of priorities at the moment.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 16, 2014 17:22:40 GMT -5
Yeah I would start with the uniform,trousers,and then basic (canteen,y-strap,mess kit,MP40 pouches) gear stuff.I would like to try to weather some of my stuff so I don't look a 6" figure out of the box  |
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Post by insterburger on May 16, 2014 18:02:20 GMT -5
I wouldn't do the weathering on your gear. Just go to events, use it, and don't coddle it. It will quickly develop wear which will be MUCH more realistic than anything you could fake up, simply because it will be 100% real, actual scratches, dings, and dents that occurred in a combat situation. The Chinese made stuff has cheaper finishes anyway that will begin to take on a legit used appearance after relatively little use. And if you're concerned about looking too fresh and new before that happens, keep in mind that even when things were going poorly for Germany, most troops were in fact getting fresh gear from time to time, so even grizzled veterans might have some sparkly new kit, if only for a short while. Just use it, and the scratches, apart from being authentic, will be a badge of pride and honor for the time you've put into the hobby.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 16, 2014 18:13:54 GMT -5
I agree. It's like keeping chrono tags on your gun. I'm not sure if you do that over where you guys are, but it's quite popular over here.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 16, 2014 18:30:46 GMT -5
Cool,just need to get in some events!
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 17, 2014 14:21:10 GMT -5
All right here is my checklist
1.M40 tunic
2.Tropical Y-Strap (These were used all over I believe)
3.MP40 pouches (field gray)
4.M40 trousers
5.Jackboots
6.Belt (black)
7.Buckle (field gray)
8.Mess kit
9."Coconut" canteen
10.Boot knife
11.Zeltbahn (splinter)
12.M43 cap (though I'm thinking about getting a splinter camo cap)
13.Personal items such as butter dish,esbit stove,soldbuch,ect.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 17, 2014 15:47:24 GMT -5
There were no splinter caps. And I would suggest a bayonet over a boot knife. But everything else could work
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 17, 2014 16:14:29 GMT -5
Cool,another question.I would like to own a Umarex Walther P38 with soft shell holster.I was wondering if it is far fetched that a regular soldier would have one on his side.I'm not very knowledgeable about the sidearm side of things and assumed that officers or squad leaders had them instead of regular infantry.I figured it would be good to have one during an event as a backup gun.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 17, 2014 19:52:07 GMT -5
Even during modern airsoft, I never use a handgun. Even when I have one I never fire one. It's up to you if you want one, but to answer your question, a regular infantrymen didn't carry handguns. But they didn't use MP40s either. I suggest you make a squad leader kit (even without a squad) so you can have an MP40 and P38 and remain accurate. Then when you get friends, they can make up your squad. But honestly, this is airsoft and fun>accurateness so I wouldn't mind if you stated a standard infantryman with an MP and a handgun.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 17, 2014 20:13:23 GMT -5
Perfectly fine.I'll research the squad leader role.There will be plenty of photos of the subject.Its the more "affordable" position for me than say like a Leutnant.This is because even though a DBoys Kar98 is affordable it is not a very practical gun to use in events.A decent Kar98 like a Tanaka goes for $700 or more,I can get about two real 98's for that price :DSo a squad leader would be a good option for me at this moment.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 17, 2014 20:42:06 GMT -5
A squad leader is typically an NCO, not an officer. I'm an obergefreiter, which is not an NCO, but they could be squad leaders if the NCO was killed. So I would suggest obergefreiter and up for squad leader. I've seen gefreiter squad leaders, but only a few.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 17, 2014 21:40:09 GMT -5
Thanks,that saved me some time looking up the ranks.
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Post by aldrich on May 17, 2014 22:07:59 GMT -5
That's a pretty solid checklist. I would say go for it. As far as rank goes, I would just stick with a basic infantry private impression. Granted they would not have been issued mp40's in most cases, but seeing how there is not much else available for a reasonable price, it would be perfectly fine. I find that a basic private impression is more versatile when it comes to reenacting. I would also suggest looking on IMA USA for a German belt and buckle. Their belts come as a set (with both belt and buckle) and, if they are anything like the one I bought years ago, are very sturdy. Don't get the aluminum ones though. Otherwise, just stick with that list and you will be fine.
Also, one quick side note, splinter caps did exist. They were just a pretty rare item that had to be custom made by the troops using scraps of fabric. I believe they were not issued to troops
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 17, 2014 22:15:40 GMT -5
That's a pretty solid checklist. I would say go for it. As far as rank goes, I would just stick with a basic infantry private impression. Granted they would not have been issued mp40's in most cases, but seeing how there is not much else available for a reasonable price, it would be perfectly fine. I find that a basic private impression is more versatile when it comes to reenacting. I would also suggest looking on IMA USA for a German belt and buckle. Their belts come as a set (with both belt and buckle) and, if they are anything like the one I bought years ago, are very sturdy. Don't get the aluminum ones though. Otherwise, just stick with that list and you will be fine. Also, one quick side note, splinter caps did exist. They were just a pretty rare item that had to be custom made by the troops using scraps of fabric. I believe they were not issued to troopsAh,I see.Then there is a snowballs chance that a soldier so late in the war would obtain one.Thanks for suggestion IMA belt and buckle.It would be much cheaper for me to get it their than both items in Hessen. |
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Post by ssgjoe on May 17, 2014 23:39:57 GMT -5
Oh, I guess that makes sense. I've seen splinter side caps so I could totally see a field cap.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 18, 2014 12:22:02 GMT -5
On Monday I will most definitely get my MP40.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 22, 2014 17:23:32 GMT -5
I'm also thinking about putting on a Finnish WW2 impression.It shouldn't be too hard as the stuff Hiki Shop has isn't too bad  |
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Post by ssgjoe on May 22, 2014 17:29:17 GMT -5
I was actually planning on doing a Finnish impression also after my US GI impression. It's a pretty basic impression and simple to do
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 22, 2014 18:30:34 GMT -5
Finnish helmets seem to be plenty.The only guns I can think of using for that impression is the Mosin Nagant and PPSh-41.The Finns war in WW2 is fascinating to me.They have the honor that despite being allied with Germany,their Jewish population remained mostly intact |
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Post by ssgjoe on May 22, 2014 19:45:11 GMT -5
It isn't necessarily anything to do with the Jews, they were amazing fighters. They kicked Soviet %$& during the Winter Defensive War. But Finns used all sorts of helmets, mostly German Great War helmets and Swiss helmets.
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