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Post by luftwelle93 on May 13, 2014 1:57:54 GMT -5
Hello,I just joined this exciting forum in the hopes of learning and joining WW2 airsoft events.I am combining a Wehrmacht (perhaps late-war) impression and have a AGM MP40 on the way.So far I have a gas mask canister for Heer and some DAK items (1st pattern tropical tunic,LW service shirt,and M41 cap) for Afrika Korps impression.I have a lot of collecting to do but going to have fun and I am open to advice here!
Thank you!
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on May 13, 2014 2:14:29 GMT -5
Sounds like a good start, when I started all I had was a folding shovel and leggings!
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Post by insterburger on May 13, 2014 6:13:49 GMT -5
Welcome, Luftwelle! It's a great hobby, and an awesome online community to go with it.
What is your geographic area? There are players all over the country, I'm sure you'll get planty of support from the members in your locale.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 13, 2014 10:00:06 GMT -5
Welcome! I'm somewhat new myself. If you need any assistance with your Heer impression, I'm sure there are many guys here that will help, but I'd be more than willing to help you myself.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 13, 2014 11:56:35 GMT -5
Thanks from all!I live in the southeast Ohio region and I am wondering where the majority of the action is at.At least around the tri-state area. Welcome! I'm somewhat new myself. If you need any assistance with your Heer impression, I'm sure there are many guys here that will help, but I'd be more than willing to help you myself. Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk I'll definitely ask you questions if anything comes up.I'm getting a job over the summer so I'll be hard on buying a good amount of Heer items piece-by-piece.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on May 13, 2014 12:19:50 GMT -5
Thanks from all!I live in the southeast Ohio region and I am wondering where the majority of the action is at.At least around the tri-state area. Welcome! I'm somewhat new myself. If you need any assistance with your Heer impression, I'm sure there are many guys here that will help, but I'd be more than willing to help you myself. Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk I'll definitely ask you questions if anything comes up.I'm getting a job over the summer so I'll be hard on buying a good amount of Heer items piece-by-piece. You should hook up with the Midwest guys!
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 13, 2014 12:41:20 GMT -5
Cool,no problem.I can't wait to have my hands on that MP40 which should arrive on Friday.I will post pics of it with the rest of what I have collected if that be cool.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 13, 2014 13:22:45 GMT -5
Nice! What kind of Heer impression are you going for specifically?
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 13, 2014 14:29:12 GMT -5
I was thinking about mid or late war impression.For late war I was thinking of getting an M44 tunic with a mixture of "bits and pieces" of other German equipment since a soldier at that time used what he could find.For mid war I was thinking of getting an M42 with standard equipment,preferably west European theater.The stuff I plan on getting for late war impression is a tropical y-strap,no A-frame,and MP40 or 44 pouches.For belt equipment I would just use zeltbahn,shovel with carrier,breadbag,mess kit,and canteen.I might even get a PPSH-41 to add the home-front fight look.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 13, 2014 14:33:55 GMT -5
M44s were not used that much. They came out so late and were issued to few units. I would suggest any uniform M40-M43 for late war as even M36s were still being issued from old stocks as late as 1945.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 13, 2014 14:49:36 GMT -5
Cool,that means I will only have to get one tunic this summer.I will get the M40 or M42 since they are the ones I see online the most (I'm partial to the M42).The jackboots are going to be the ones that will be hard for me to find.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 13, 2014 14:59:52 GMT -5
What websites do you usually use? Good websites include Man the Line, At the Front, Hessen Antique, and Gavin Militaria. I would highly recommend these websites.
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Post by LÏŸÏŸAH1944 on May 13, 2014 15:54:41 GMT -5
I'd say go with the M44! Since most airsoft events are 44, that wont be much of a problem, and m44s are an awesome look that you don't see too much in reenacting!
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 13, 2014 17:23:54 GMT -5
What websites do you usually use? Good websites include Man the Line, At the Front, Hessen Antique, and Gavin Militaria. I would highly recommend these websites. Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk I've been using Hessen the most for my kit.It is a good site and ships fast.I think though I will be getting tunics at Man the Line because it seams Hessen is sold out on alot of things that I need.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 13, 2014 17:25:14 GMT -5
I have a Man the Line uniform. I love it, it's great quality, but Gavin has some for about the same quality, and it's cheaper.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 13, 2014 17:37:37 GMT -5
I just looked at Gavin's Tropical M40 tunic and realized that mine could of been from there from the looks of it (I got mine on eBay).There HBT tunics look good.How common were HBT tunics/trousers in late war?
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Post by ssgjoe on May 13, 2014 18:10:55 GMT -5
HBT tunic with wool pants would be fine.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 13, 2014 18:50:19 GMT -5
Cool,though I think I'm partial to the wool tunics as that's my priority type to buy.Pretty much I'm going for what a soldier would wear in late winter,early spring 1945 impression.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 13, 2014 18:55:04 GMT -5
Oh yeah. That's pretty much what was worn year round by a lot of soldiers.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 13, 2014 19:02:20 GMT -5
Oh yeah. That's pretty much what was worn year round by a lot of soldiers. Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk Unbelievable,and to think that was what they wore in the early stages of the Russian invasion.Reason is that it was scorching hot during that time.I think I read that one German soldier wrote that Napoleon was right about the Russian summer being worse than the Egyptian heat.Even though there is not a whole lot of units in Ohio I'm confident that one will form when someone gets the light bulb over their head for people in my region.
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Post by ScottCollins on May 13, 2014 19:02:48 GMT -5
If you can make the drive up to southern Michigan we hold some events up here from time to time
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 13, 2014 19:13:05 GMT -5
I can try
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Post by huxy on May 15, 2014 10:25:11 GMT -5
Welcome, Luftwelle! It's a great hobby, and an awesome online community to go with it. What is your geographic area? There are players all over the country, I'm sure you'll get planty of support from the members in your locale. Troughout the world! I'm posting from the distant country called Europe Welcome, Luftwelle! I hope I can be of any assistance to you
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 15, 2014 11:48:25 GMT -5
Thanks,definitely give you a call when I need to ask something.
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Post by aldrich on May 15, 2014 12:25:40 GMT -5
When putting together an impression, always remember, original pictures are your best friend! Late war impressions can vary extensively due to the terrible state of supply during WWII. For a 1945 look, I would stick with the m40-43 tunics and pants. These were the basic issue items in the German army and you can use them as a foundation to build virtually any German infantry impression. While HBT cotton uniforms were indeed issued to troops, I have found that they were sometimes hard to come by, where as wool was always the norm. While late war impressions open up some doors such as the m44 tunic and leibermuster camo, it is still best to go generic. Germany was falling apart by 1945, and because of this, most things developed in the very late war never really could be issued or produced in any quantity. The vast majority of what was issued was leftover from the mid-war period. For this reason, I style my own uniform around what can be commonly seen in the year 1943. That way, it fits in any mid to late war scenario. In the end, choose what best suits you. However, definitely try to find real photos that you like to base your impression on. I find that in doing so, you can really make your impression have the WWII German look just right.
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 15, 2014 12:47:40 GMT -5
When putting together an impression, remember, original pictures are your best friend! Late war impressions can vary extensively due to the terrible state of supply during WWII. For a 1945 look, I would stick with the m40-43 tunics and pants. These were the basic issue items in the German army and you can use them as a foundation to build virtually any German infantry impression. While HBT cotton uniforms were indeed issued to troops, I have found that they were sometimes hard to come by, where as wool was always the norm. While late war impressions open up some doors such as the m44 tunic and leibermuster camo, it is still best to go generic. Germany was falling apart by 1945, and because of this, most things that were developed in the very late war never really could be issued or produced in any quantity. The vast majority of what was issued was leftover from the mid-war period. For this reason, I style my own uniform around what can be commonly seen in the year 1943. That way, it fits in any mid to late war scenario. In the end, choose what best suits you. However, definitely try to find real photos that you like to base your impression on. I find that in doing so, you can really make your impression have the WWII German look just right. Very good advice thank you.Is there a site that has plenty of late war German soldiers with their gear?
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Post by aldrich on May 15, 2014 13:45:13 GMT -5
I usually like to search forums, you can sometimes find threads with a good deal of pictures. Google can usually lead you the way there. Looking up things such as the battle of Berlin and the battle of the Seelow heights are good places to start for 1945. Here are some good videos with footage from the German front in 1945. A warning on using videos, while amateur videos are great for information. Propaganda newsreels make it seem as though the German army was winning the war in 1945. So always take into account that newsreels may be staged and not reflective of the actual front. Here are videos containing mostly amateur footage. A slight warning as they do contain some graphic images of dead bodies in some parts. Seelow Heights www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6FQa2CcDqsBattle for Berlin www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6FQa2CcDqs
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Post by luftwelle93 on May 15, 2014 14:08:09 GMT -5
Danke!I am looking into it,thanks!
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Post by insterburger on May 15, 2014 14:28:25 GMT -5
aldrich has excellent advice, not too much to add but one thing that I think can't be repeated too often: Always better to err on the side of what was most typical than to do something very distinctive in your impression and have to defend it with "but I have a picture that shows..." You will never be criticized for being too "vanilla" in your impression, you may find people throwing the f-word (no, the other one, FARB) at you if your impression has excessive "flair."
Welcome to the forums, and to the hobby. You'll find it's a great community.
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Post by ssgjoe on May 15, 2014 15:00:04 GMT -5
I have a tropical rank chevron on my continental uniform, but I'm fine with it and don't see it as farb.
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