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Post by jeep on Mar 8, 2009 15:18:21 GMT -5
Still no joy here at my end, I read something about a lack of mech boxs somewhere. Sorry to hear that yours needs some massaging before use. sigh. Hopefully, mine comes soon and is field ready, for now I have a STAR M60 on my bench that I better get finished.
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Post by mdeevl on Mar 17, 2009 15:26:02 GMT -5
I just received my M2HB, but never got the e-mail with instructions, and there was nothing included with the 'kit'. (I thought I was getting an assembled replica, so am a bit ticked from the get-go!) I agree with the previous post on finish quality, but as a model builder I can handle the cosmetics . . . . assembling a gearbox / hop up / etc without any guidance is outside my skills! If anyone has directions, could you please e-mail them to me at: mdeevl@yahoo.com Hopefully, it works as advertised once assembled Thanks in advance, mdeevl
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Post by shadycadence on Mar 17, 2009 19:08:49 GMT -5
Wait a minute, your GEARBOX wasn't assembled? Mine came assembled and wired. (hard-wired) That's just weak. I'll send you an e-mail with the "instructions" and some links on mechboxes. It may take me a while, but I'll get it to you. Hang tight.
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Post by deacon on Mar 17, 2009 19:21:03 GMT -5
i think you just bought the plans. how much did you spend?
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Post by mdeevl on Mar 17, 2009 20:03:00 GMT -5
I bought the assembled M2HB when it was on 'special' for $795 back in June of '08.
The pictures will be an Enormous help! Thanks shadycadence
The ABS plastic components came assembled and painted in a hammered bronze finish (I had requested work wear, but what the heck, I can 'weather' just about anything! LOL)
The hop-up came disassembled in a small baggie. The jb inner barrel was separate, and the M249 gearbox came mounted to the ABS base plate. I have no clue how to get them together, and don't wanna risk trial and error.
I already learned I am missing the plastic ring against which the hop up spring is supposed to rest. I can fabricate a replacement out of polystyrene, but shouldn't have had to!
Also included were two 'eye & eye turnbuckles' with bolts thru the eyes . . . no idea where these go either! Perhaps part of the pintle mount? Hmmmmm.....
mdeevl
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Post by jeep on Mar 17, 2009 21:49:17 GMT -5
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Post by mdeevl on Mar 18, 2009 15:37:22 GMT -5
Checked the other thread, but I am still having trouble There is nothing to hold the small spring (which is shown over the inner barrel) in place. The hop-up fits through a larger hole leading forward, but there is no bulkhead to fit the spring against. Is the small spring unnecessary? Hop up also came with a small brass ring, but it is too narrow for the jb inner barrel to fit through, so I have no Idea if I need it. Right now the inner barrel is fit into the rubber sleeve in the hop up assembly. More importantly, the gearbox only Hums when activated. It does Not cycle :? HELP !!!!!! mdeevl
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Post by shadycadence on Mar 18, 2009 22:37:50 GMT -5
Checked the other thread, but I am still having trouble There is nothing to hold the small spring (which is shown over the inner barrel) in place. The hop-up fits through a larger hole leading forward, but there is no bulkhead to fit the spring against. There should be a small round plastic disc with a barrel sized hole in it. That covers the large hole in the front of the receiver. If it's missing, you could make one out of the lid of a small tin can.Is the small spring unnecessary? NO, it is very necessary. It keeps the barrel and hopup pushed against the air nozzle of the mechbox when firing. No spring=no seal=no shoot worth a crap.Hop up also came with a small brass ring, but it is too narrow for the jb inner barrel to fit through, so I have no Idea if I need it. Right now the inner barrel is fit into the rubber sleeve in the hop up assembly. Should be okay without it.More importantly, the gearbox only Hums when activated. It does Not cycle :? Hums? As in nothing moves and the motor gets hot? Or the motor just spins freely?HELP !!!!!! mdeevl
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Post by mdeevl on Mar 19, 2009 10:39:46 GMT -5
Looks like I will have to reposition the gearbox / baseplate back a bit compared to where the predrilled holes are. The hop up now sticks THRU the front of the receiver into the area where the outer barrel begins. That way I can place a retainer disk inside the receiver to hold the spring in place.
The gearbox makes an electric 'hum' but nothing moves. I was only using a left-over 7.5V battery, so maybe its just not strong enough for the M249 gearbox. I'll try again with a stronger battery.
Thanks for your advice.
mdeevl
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Post by shadycadence on Mar 19, 2009 18:29:39 GMT -5
Yeah, same thing I had to do on mine. Make the disc for the barrel first,(do not mount the disc in the reciever, it should float freely) then install the barrel and hold the mechbox in place and slide it forward until the spring on the barrel compresses a bit. It should put pressure on the hopup, but not bind (compress fully)
I doubt that battery has the balls to compress the spring, try it with a fully charged 8.4 or 9.6. Don't worry, we'll get you running.
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Post by killbucket on Mar 20, 2009 19:58:49 GMT -5
Well! Guilty as charged, I deserved the spanking, nice work! Part shipped, tracking# sent. Folks, I'm sorry. I can only pledge to try to do better. Yes, my guns ARE priced LOW. Quality costs. As I've stated before, I'm no longer taking orders for guns to build, and will not be taking any more in the future. When this is done, it's done, I need rest.
The M249 gearboxes did not turn out to be a good idea, I've eaten ten of them so far. Accountant says we lost over 15k last year on this. Nope, not in it for the money...
I DO have a list of promises made. I am doing my best here, I have 1.5 hands to use now, to do EVERYTHING.
In gratitude for those customers who have stuck by while I got my act together, there WILL be some paybacks.
This year, and beyond, if you can place an order, rest assured I have the item PACKAGED, and it ships within TWO BUSINESS DAYS.
The only holdups now, wait for suitable gearboxes. Replacement bodies ARE coming, and they are all milled as ONE chunk, no chance of part misalignment. I will NOT ship any of these until I'm sure they will be received positively, though.
If you ordered ANY of my pattern sets in the past month, you got ALL of them (some got $200 worth of patterns for just spending $25!) in the mail. I just released the ammodrive patterns, if you are a previous customer AT ALL, you get them charged at half-price. I've given away over $3,000 worth of prints so far.
For the next 60 days, I'm keeping this up, EVERY pattern order will have at least two of the other patterns, as appropriate, thrown in. I get to choose.
Anything else?
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Post by killbucket on Mar 21, 2009 11:20:44 GMT -5
Thank You all for the spanking. ANNOUNCEMENT: The M2 is dead. Remaining orders aside, no more will be constructed. The few promised replacements will be filled with the latest CAD design, and then I will build no more.
If you have one, take care of it, it's one of less than 200 in the whole world. Consider it ART, because it is, in every respect, including not making every viewer happy. I'm pushing 50, and in failing health. Do the math.
Sorry if the next section sounds bitchy... The .50 is too big. They end up in backyards, not battlefields. Airsoft barrels max out at about 20 inches, too short for the BB's to exit at the muzzle. The last twenty guns have a slip-off muzzle cap to allow firing. Earlier models included a shorty barrel for actual firing -what a rip, I know.
There is a LOT of material used/scrapped to make one .50, Over three times that of a 1919, or even a minigun.
Did I say they were BIG? I have a 1700sq ft home, and it got full of guns in process for two years, every room, including my bedroom, had M2HB stock waiting.
As I said, my focus this year will be on supporting and adding to the patterns. Most of my custom projects will focus on using components from them, and only some of these projects will be offered up for new homes, because there won't be many. I DO want to KEEP one someday.
The very FIRST 1919 I made was for ME. It was way off, ugly, and very rough. I got $500 for it from a local shop owner. I made the second, identical one the following week, and got another $500. I got a website, because a forum poster wanted to see more pictures. I kept selling these flimsy, foam PVC stage-quality contraptions, most of them locally. Then I added the shopcart...
I'm NOT a Production Planner, I'm not an accountant, either. I just do my best. I'm not a corporation, I'm a normal Joe like you all. Imagine your Boss's Boss doing YOUR job, and the results you'd expect...
China makes NICE stuff. In trainloads, under shall we say "controlled conditions"? I can't hope to achieve the quality level, and I sure don't want to be the next CyberGun.
So I bow out. If you DO see an M2 for sale on my site in the future, I will want FOUR times the price ever previously paid, and the quality will comfortably reflect that. And I sure won't be paying shipping.
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Post by killbucket on Mar 21, 2009 15:39:34 GMT -5
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Post by nekros on Mar 23, 2009 10:06:11 GMT -5
I received my M2 last Tuesday but I could not assemble it until yesterday. With the instructions I could find in the airsoftpacific forums and the advice found here from Shadycadence/mdeevl mentioning that is necessary to slide back a little bit the gearbox, the assembly was very easy. Anyway I found three things where I was a little bit disappointed. a) The wooden charging handle. The one I received is too short ( around 2 inches long ) and painted black. I thought I would receive the same charging handle as the one shown in the first page of this topic by ryn1523, or the one shown at www.air-sharp.com/m2nitro.html. Where can I find these handles online? b) Two legs of the tripod collapsed when I put the M2 on it. I fixed it with some epoxy plaster and it is fixed now, just some painting needed. Anyway I will try to build something that looks like a M3 tripod. c) The inner JB barrel is visible through the heat shield. I will try to fix it but I have not found a feasible way to do it for the moment I tested it firing it against the carton box where I received at a distance of 4 meters (around 12 feet) and around 80% of the BB's went through the side of the box, so I think is powerful. And regarding the grouping ( I do not know if "grouping" is the correct english term, sorry ) was very good, having all the BB's inside a circle of 4 inches, taking into account that I was firing without tripod, directly on the floor. I can not say anything regarding how well the hopup works as long the distance was not long enough. I will revert later with my findings. Just a question, as it is very easy to change the spring, and I have a Systema M170 lying around, can I use the M170 with the supplied gearbox? I fear I have to do a lot of upgrades to the internals of the gearbox By the way, the ammo box worked PERFECTLY, not a single problem. Overall, I am very happy with the acquisition, waiting time aside. rgds
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Post by deacon on Mar 23, 2009 12:23:04 GMT -5
More importantly, the gearbox only Hums when activated. It does Not cycle :? Hums? As in nothing moves and the motor gets hot? Or the motor just spins freely?HELP !!!!!! mdeevl you need to reverse the polarity on the battery, that why it is humming like that. ive had it happen many times with guns.
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Post by jeep on Mar 26, 2009 14:57:40 GMT -5
Mine arrived a few minutes ago, With the M14 drive I ordered and a cradle and ground mount which I didn't (THANK YOU) I'll put the rest of it together after work and report back. (got the ground mount and cradle figured out.
I just bench tested my M14 mechanism and it is DOA, Tried several batteries. I have to go to work now so I'll do a proper trouble shoot later. Some assembly required I guess. But everything was very well packaged.
Is there a good picture of how the M14 mechanism fits up inside the M2 shell.
Does anyone have some pictures of how the a real ammo can is mounted on the Mk93 mount?
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Post by jeep on Mar 27, 2009 1:01:47 GMT -5
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Post by killbucket on Apr 30, 2009 14:55:53 GMT -5
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