Sgt_Tom
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Feb 3, 2009 7:36:32 GMT -5
Cool! But those links you gave didn't work.
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Feb 3, 2009 7:52:53 GMT -5
Just go to www.cop9gun.com its on the front page... US$160 for one with a real wood stock. There is a God
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Post by zbear on Feb 3, 2009 9:05:46 GMT -5
I have not found any more information yet on any other site. Need more confirmation, like up for pre-order somewhere. Over on the UK ww2 airsoft site someone picked up that it is not even an image of the AEG. It is of a real stg44/mp44. The picture was copied from www.mp44.nl/I want one as badly as everyone else. However I want to see what the production gun looks like and maybe some reviews first. Unless someone wants to sell me one at a discount so I can write an extensive review
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Post by click on Feb 3, 2009 9:38:12 GMT -5
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Feb 3, 2009 18:47:20 GMT -5
Copyguns has a shop in Hong Kong (Mong Kok) in the alley off of Kwong Wah street. If I can get away from work this afternoon I'll try and visit their shop and ask about it. I did send them an email last night as well.
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Post by lrich on Feb 3, 2009 20:00:57 GMT -5
i looked, only $15 difference of fake wood vs. real wood, now why skip the wood for only $15, i would think a bigger price difference would help them sell more plastic wood ones. Also, looking at the shipping information, through google translator (i don't read chinese), i was trying to figure out if they ship to the U.S. Because google spits out gibberish, but their shipping is only $45 (taking the expensive one), meaning that it is pretty cheap compared to other hong kong shops.
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Post by Ripper on Feb 3, 2009 20:38:16 GMT -5
If there is only $15 difference between plastic and real wood, I'm wondering why they are bothering to do a plastic stock at all. Seems kinda silly to have two production items when the pricepoint is so similar. Especially since few guys that really want an accurate STG would get a plastic stocked version. Oh well, I'll wait for somebody like UNcompany or Dentrinity to show it in stock before I go trying to order one.
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mccallion
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Post by mccallion on Feb 3, 2009 21:55:33 GMT -5
ill probbly wait till wgc stocks them and ill get one
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Feb 4, 2009 4:40:14 GMT -5
I met with David Fung at Copygun this afternoon.
per David, the release will be next week(he smiled when he said that, not sure what that meant) and shipments will go directly from the distributer to the customer. Only a small quantity will actually be sold from the shop as a retail product. Accessories such as spare magazines will be released at a later date yet TBD.
What I don't like about this scenario is that the guns go directly to the customer without shop testing. If you are a bit squeamish about this too you may want to wait for the reviews.
Yes.... My order is in with David so I'll let you know... hopefully next week.
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Post by Ripper on Feb 4, 2009 12:52:19 GMT -5
I'll definately be waiting. I remember the fiasco with the AGM MP40's when they first came out. Overpriced, faulty and no extra mags. If no spare magazines are available at the time of sale, then the gun is no better than the Shoei that I already have. I was really hoping that this manufacturer had learned from others past mistakes in marketing to the WWII crowd, but it doesn't look like it.
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Post by Gordak on Feb 4, 2009 15:11:55 GMT -5
Still a replica mp44, working or not, is still worth a bundle, I bet if your 44 breaks someone will give you 500 for it, non shooting. Id like to order one too actualy 3, one with winter camo, one battle worn and one standard issue plastic stock = bigger battery, thats why they would offer it. Still I would go wood guys, just to be more ww2. After all, thats what we are all about -Gordak
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Post by DRK on Feb 4, 2009 16:11:52 GMT -5
kalbs, what was the asking price?
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Post by shadycadence on Feb 4, 2009 17:00:51 GMT -5
US$160 for one with a real wood stock. ;D
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Post by mccallion on Feb 4, 2009 17:14:14 GMT -5
i cant wait this will go great with my late was ss kit!
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Feb 4, 2009 17:34:15 GMT -5
Still a replica mp44, working or not, is still worth a bundle, I bet if your 44 breaks someone will give you 500 for it, non shooting. Id like to order one too -Gordak I agree 100% ;D What about MP44 pouches? I haven't seen any in our local market for a long time. Those who want the MP44 should start sourcing those as well. I got mine a long time ago for the Shoei stg44
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Post by pretzeljager on Feb 4, 2009 21:08:48 GMT -5
I am seriously excited about the MG-42 that isn't $1000.
All we need now is a skirmishable Kar98!
I hope the MG-42 is about USP$250.
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Post by deacon on Feb 4, 2009 21:52:36 GMT -5
i dont think it will be that cheap, maybe $550.
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Post by therifleman on Feb 4, 2009 22:04:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't jump to conclusions about high pricing. Remember everyone thought this Stg would be pretty high priced when it was first announced. Turned out it's only $160.
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Post by johnspartan117 on Feb 4, 2009 22:06:54 GMT -5
Well, if you overprice it and you get the money for it, and it turns out to be cheaper, you got some extra cash on your hands!
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Post by lrich on Feb 4, 2009 22:19:15 GMT -5
Well, if you overprice it and you get the money for it, and it turns out to be cheaper, you got some extra cash on your hands! True, and with shipping (to Seattle at least) the mp44 is more like $250, so it isn't exactly cheap. Although still a pretty good deal.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 4, 2009 23:19:13 GMT -5
This is amazing. Strikes me as one of those too good to be true deals I'm afraid. If real and it performs well it is going to be a hot,hot seller although it certainly is going to screw up weapon parity and authenticity for events.
Yikes what am I saying this appears to be super, super news.
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Post by DRK on Feb 5, 2009 7:38:47 GMT -5
kalbs u paid 160? hmm interesting.
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Post by lrich on Feb 5, 2009 13:19:32 GMT -5
kalbs u paid 160? hmm interesting. he didn't have to ship it stateside, for me to get one to seattle, the shipping is another $90, bringing my total to about $250, which really sucks, as i only have $190 at the moment...
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Sgt_Tom
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Feb 5, 2009 15:16:27 GMT -5
I'd just wait till the price goes down, which I think it will.
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Post by 5thrangerbat on Feb 5, 2009 15:30:57 GMT -5
If the MG-42 is atleast $350 and under, i will definetly buy it.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 5, 2009 16:53:21 GMT -5
With a crew served weapon the cost of production is not significantly higher then that of a regular AEG However with sales volume numbers way way lower the price is always going to be higher.
I suspect it will easily be 550.00 and relative to what's out there now a bargain at that. Traditionally no Airsoft manufacturer is going to tool up and build anything that can't support 5,000 unit sales. That's why so many of our WW2 weapons have never been built or are slow to be introduced. The masses within the airsoft community simply don't want long heavy weapons when an MP5K or M4 can shoot as hard and carry more ammo spreading more BBs with less effort.
I am confident the MP44 if made well will do extremely well sales wise (as has the MP40, and CYMA Thompson) so their volume and success will encourage additional offering other than more AK and M16 variants.
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Feb 5, 2009 17:42:41 GMT -5
kalbs u paid 160? hmm interesting. I haven't paid anything yet. The price is what is quoted on the copygun website. Copygun did ask me if I knew the price ranges based on their website so I assume it will be about the same. Note however the walk-in price is generally cheaper than the cataloge price. In Hong Kong as an example the MP40 sells for about US$80 and there is no shipping. The China one looks good to me ;D REAL STEEL China MP44
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Post by lrich on Feb 5, 2009 21:14:30 GMT -5
wait, is that sarcasm? Because i thought someone said that picture was copied off of a website showing the real one? (And that fire selector is realistic, while the prototype picture fire selectors aren't) Also, Kalbs, when you got to the shop, could you enlighten us on what the price difference is? And i found another reason to buy the fake wood gun, shipping is like $40 less (must be some heavy wood they are using...)
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 5, 2009 21:49:32 GMT -5
So in person it looked good? How is the weight? Do you have a chance to fire it at the shop? As soon as you have any additional information let us know. A lot of inquisitive, interested parties will want to know everything.
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Feb 5, 2009 22:58:29 GMT -5
wait, is that sarcasm? Because i thought someone said that picture was copied off of a website showing the real one? (And that fire selector is realistic, while the prototype picture fire selectors aren't) Also, Kalbs, when you got to the shop, could you enlighten us on what the price difference is? And i found another reason to buy the fake wood gun, shipping is like $40 less (must be some heavy wood they are using...) I did the calculation for a 12lb package using Hong Kong Speed Post assuming a 12lb package and it came out to $HK525 (US$67.00). So buying locally and shipping from here would still be a lot unless it went by Sea. As far as I know, right now there is no difference between walking in price and ordering on line from Copygun. David didn't give me a for-sure quote, only noted that I was aware of the price (based on their website posting). No, no, no... you miss understood my post, sorry if I misled you. I haven't seen it yet and no idea about the picture, it's from their web site. They don't arrive till after this weekend. But, be assured that when I get one I will post tons of pictures and information. At this point David Fung didn't even know what gear box was installed. He hasn't seen it either. I pray this will not be the disaster I experienced with S-3... bastards. Be patient guys. I want it really badly and constantly pray for a call or email from David.
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