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Post by jedburgh on Sept 26, 2007 16:36:36 GMT -5
Most impressive. Since the Mosin was also the same sniper weapon used by the Russian sniper in Enemy at the Gates, I can see people wanting to upgrade the lollipops y to sniper FPS, so what do you recommend there?
As for what weapons to you to consider pouring? Sten gun. Lots were supplied to resistance forces. Outside of WW 2....definitely the Swedish K. Perhaps off an AGM MP40 since there is a resemblance of a sort to the Swedish K.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 26, 2007 16:52:35 GMT -5
One of mine
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Post by troyluginbill on Oct 1, 2007 0:29:15 GMT -5
I'm putting in a vote for a johnson light MG or automatic rifle. It may just be the Marine in me but hey. Also a Japanese Type 91/96 LMG would be great.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 1, 2007 12:50:12 GMT -5
A johnson light MG would be very cool.
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Post by gryphon on Oct 3, 2007 7:09:35 GMT -5
There is no upgrade path for this kind of gun, it's just meant to be an inexpensive way to show up with a period-looking Ostfront-looking weapon. Sniper impressions should go for a 2nd Bat style conversion weapon.
I was wondering about a jig set to do a run of all-metal Stens, but the BB feed area would be fussy - mking this a low-priority item, even though I'd like one for my partisan impression.
A Johnson LMG would be very cool, let me ruminate on that one.....
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Oct 3, 2007 9:05:37 GMT -5
Gentlemen, gentlemen! All this talk about Johnson LMG's, stens, and other conversions is very distracting. You are getting Gryphon confused and off track. There was talk earlier in the thread of a G43. I for one believe that we should get back on topic. First, the G43, then the other guns. Let's all stay focused on what is truly important.
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Post by jd7 on Oct 3, 2007 9:06:23 GMT -5
one of the guys over at the UK WW2 Airsoft forum has made one of these also, looks pretty fine
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Post by Tough Ombre on Oct 3, 2007 11:44:11 GMT -5
I LOVE THE IDEAS! G43, Johnson LMG, Type 91/96 LMG, What about a Bren? I would deffinatly consider buying anyone of those! -Cary
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Post by slick63 on Oct 3, 2007 15:04:35 GMT -5
one of the guys over at the UK WW2 Airsoft forum has made one of these also, looks pretty fine Thanks to Gryphon for the initial idea, it was fun making it and very, very cheap ;D
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Post by alban on Oct 3, 2007 15:08:25 GMT -5
one of the guys over at the UK WW2 Airsoft forum has made one of these also, looks pretty fine Thanks to Gryphon for the initial idea, it was fun making it and very, very cheap ;D Okay first of all, nice!!! Second, I bet someone could do this with a Garand easily, ergo solving the problem of a spring Garand.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 3, 2007 16:24:02 GMT -5
Very cool you guys and clever as hell but honestly isn't it a lot of work for a minimally performing replica? The internals will clearly not accomodate any upgrades and they just don't shoot quite hard enough to skirmish with do they?
Let's funnel this talent toward skirmishable weapons. They do look great however!
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Post by dookieboy on Oct 3, 2007 18:06:12 GMT -5
Hey Gryphon, How should I go about making the stock as in the shape? Is there a website where I can get this info and other little details?
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Oct 3, 2007 20:24:40 GMT -5
hmm. Wouldn't this make a perfect SKS airsoft conversion?
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Post by gryphon on Oct 3, 2007 20:46:38 GMT -5
The UK guys had a thought. If you started with a Maruzen CA870 instead of the Double Eagle I used, the gun would be upgradeable to 500 fps or so. That would be more like a $200 or $300 Mosin-Nagant instead of a $20 one, but you'd be able to bump 'er up into sniper range....
BTW, Slick, fantastic job on yours. Wasn't that a fun thing to do with that ol' shottie in the back of the closet?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 3, 2007 21:36:44 GMT -5
Now you're talking! 500 FPS fro a cock it every time rifle makes more sense.
Incidently I am doing an SKS but feel an AEG is called for as it was a semi automatic weapon. The actual stocks are quite thin as was the Mosin Nagant which makes the conversion somewhat challenging. Also like the Gewere 43 the barrel exits the stock well below the apparent receiver group.
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Post by ncthorn on Oct 3, 2007 22:54:49 GMT -5
NICE work! way to make your own stock for the project too. I really like it that you chose not to cannibalize a RS stock, instead making your own. The finish matches my RS M91/30 perfectly. Cant wait to see more because they can only get better!
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Post by slick63 on Oct 4, 2007 3:49:29 GMT -5
BTW, Slick, fantastic job on yours. Wasn't that a fun thing to do with that ol' shottie in the back of the closet? It certainly was, I haven`t built anything for a couple of years so your idea gave me the motivation, cheers bud ;D
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Post by Guinness on Oct 7, 2007 14:51:39 GMT -5
Slick63, I replied to your post on the UK boards to give props to gryphon for the expoded view pic Great step by step though! Slainte! -G
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Post by jimseery on Oct 8, 2007 21:43:49 GMT -5
I've been fooling around with the "drill rifle``
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Post by KRaddatz on Oct 8, 2007 21:51:31 GMT -5
now waht it you put a hinge at the end of the bolt so to cock it you pull it up and back, maybe something like that could be worked out, then it would be perfect!
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Post by jimseery on Oct 8, 2007 21:54:40 GMT -5
Sorry about that, I fat fingered something. In any event - fooling around with the "drill rifle" plastic stock for the Springfield. If you take the front end of that stock and fit it to the center section fo the AGM springer and use the drill rifle hanguard all you have to do is some cosmetic work to make a fairly decent 03A3. However if you are only making a master you can attach the buttstock too that, if you make a fiberrglass copy you merely have to chop the barrel, fit a pipe substitute and you have a verry good Springfield. The only glitch would be the bolt. Let me do some work on the concept and get back to you. Gryphon, if I can make a decent master would you be interested ? I have no desire to get any money out of this.
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Post by gryphon on Oct 9, 2007 14:08:04 GMT -5
Quite possibly. Please, post some pics when you get the prototype together.
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Post by grinch on Oct 25, 2007 3:36:11 GMT -5
:S How did you make bolt reloadaple as you have to pump the shotgun... how did you... amm :S
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Post by gryphon on Oct 25, 2007 8:38:12 GMT -5
Look at the pics at the top of the thread. Look closely at the front end of the receiver assembly. I used a hardwood block (rock maple, the most dense hardwood I had on hand - I would have used aluminum if I wasn't such a cheap rouble-pincher) screwed and epoxied to the front of the cocking arm as a rigid linkage, so I could attach a bolt arm I shaped and welded from steel strap and round stock. This works well IF your linkage is rigid enough, AND your stock inletting is precise enough, to prevent the whole cocking assembly from torquing or lifting as you pull back on the bolt to cock the gun. Mine works fine now, but it took some tweaking, and I've heard that slick had the same problems with his linkage twisting.
I'm working on the experimental Mk 2 version right now (hey, I had three of these Double Eagles lying around anyway.) On the Mk 2, I've removed the cocking arm entirely, cut a cocking channel through the right side of the receiver, and am fashioning a much smaller 1 1/2" tall vertical steel bolt arm that will through-bolt directly to the cocking lug on the bottom of the shottie's air cylinder. If the lug was mounted on the top instead of the bottom of the cylinder, I wouldn't need an arm at all - I could just run a through-bolt out the side, but as it is, this puts the bolt WAY too low for a Mosin-Nagant. So instead, I had to drill an extra hole high in the lug to accept an 1/8" dia. anti-pivot pin welded to the bolt arm.
I'll post pics soon, if this mod works. I hope it will. It's a lot easier to make than the Mk 1 linkage, and will allow the stock in front of the receiver to be slimmer and more "Mosiny" as well as "Nagantesque"....
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Post by grinch on Oct 25, 2007 16:39:31 GMT -5
i would say that put some how-to pictures. Heh the same double eagle gun is in my town for sale for my own project
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Post by grinch on Oct 26, 2007 14:29:11 GMT -5
[quote author=gryphon board=technical thread=1190233128 So, what do you guys want to see? BARs? FG42s? MP43s? MG42s? Brens? Would $200-$300 seem an unreasonable price for an empty fiberglass shell that you could drop your own gearbox and barrel into without any need for inletting?[/quote] Lets just say i would love to have Ppsh 41 as its copy from the Finnish SP 31 as russians copyed it after Winter War (1939). BAR would be nice (too heavy for me But springfield (OMG!) if you are willing to buy VSR or something and make springfield for me for amount of cash just tell me and i try to save some "money-money-moneey"
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Post by gryphon on Oct 26, 2007 16:07:09 GMT -5
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Post by CharleyNovember on Oct 26, 2007 16:58:43 GMT -5
very interested in the PPsh reciever if you are wanting to sell a fiberglass one. I have a real steel parts kit which was torch cut this would fix that ptoblem for me.
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Oct 26, 2007 17:12:41 GMT -5
WOW awesome ppsh41, can't wait to see that as a finished product.
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Post by gryphon on Oct 26, 2007 23:00:23 GMT -5
Absolutely, CN, I'll let you know when they're ready. You might want the barrel/breechblock insert piece as well, it's designed to accept a 6mm barrel. Although you'll need to build out the sides of the breechblock, the assembly should mate with the real steel reasonably well.
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