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Post by grinch on Oct 27, 2007 4:31:55 GMT -5
If you ever start selling one´s (Full working weapon)... just say price  |
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Post by grinch on Oct 27, 2007 14:30:49 GMT -5
I would love to have M38 or Springfield... Say price :S  |
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chadwick
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Post by chadwick on Nov 1, 2007 14:17:54 GMT -5
Id be very interested in a PPSH, or a BAR.
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Post by slick63 on Nov 1, 2007 14:47:25 GMT -5
That ppsh looks interesting, you`ll probably get a lot of interest from the UK as well, keep us updated please ;D
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gryphon
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Post by gryphon on Nov 1, 2007 15:59:44 GMT -5
I've located a gunsmith with a copy lathe who is willing to do a run of PPsh41 stocks for me, pre-inletted to accept a ver. 7 gearbox and battery. This means that my PaPaShas will have real hardwood stocks instead of fiberglass ones! More soon....
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chadwick
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Post by chadwick on Nov 4, 2007 20:28:47 GMT -5
I've located a gunsmith with a copy lathe who is willing to do a run of PPsh41 stocks for me, pre-inletted to accept a ver. 7 gearbox and battery. This means that my PaPaShas will have real hardwood stocks instead of fiberglass ones! More soon.... If you do Ill take one! hey, I believe you are the one who returned my M1911A1 at CT 4 thanks again. |
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Post by Paul on Nov 10, 2007 12:57:16 GMT -5
Yo that shotgun in the pic is a UTG M87SA so you really got a deal! That's no knock off like on the box. It says it's a Double Eagle. UTG is a better brand. Very nice job on keeping the adjustable hop-up showing!
~Paul
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gryphon
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Post by gryphon on Nov 10, 2007 13:16:11 GMT -5
Paul, do you know any sources for upgrade springs for the UTG shotguns?
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Post by Godo on Nov 10, 2007 16:11:07 GMT -5
What did you do to get the exact shape of the stock from the 2x8?
Did you have schematics or something?
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Post by Paul on Nov 11, 2007 12:55:36 GMT -5
Paul, do you know any sources for upgrade springs for the UTG shotguns? Well, unfortunately no. If you got the Ver. 3 of the UTG your in luck. The Ver. 2 and 1 wont last you 2 months, but the Ver. 3 is a heck of a lot better. I've heard of people putting a spacer the Ver. 3 spring, right where the spring meets the plastic. That is said to up your fps by about 30 depending on how big your spacer is. But there are no "upgrades" to speak of for UTG's. In fact the UTG brand is made in China (Big alarm) so i would stay away from them IF POSSIBLE. The Ver. 3 is good, don't get me wrong. Plus this is obviously better than those Double Eagle and Well brand guns, but if you can get a Tokyo Marui or a Classic Army, hack of the dough and buy it. But UTG is about the best brand for cheap Shotguns... Even though they are not good. But there getting better. Hope this helps, ~Paul |
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gryphon
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Post by gryphon on Nov 12, 2007 9:05:02 GMT -5
Godo, I laid my real steel Mosin-Nagant on a sheet of freezer paper and carefully traced its outline; then did the same for the shottie action; then taped the two in layers to my sliding glass patio door so I could use the door like a giant lightbox, allowing me to see how the two would mate; finally, I taped a third sheet of freezer paper over the first two and drew the modifications I would need to make to the shape of the stock in order to fit the shottie action. The Mk 2 mod I'm messing with will eliminate the cocking arm on the front of the receiver, and will allow the stock to be virtually identical to the cross-section of the real ones. I'll post pics as soon as my schedule gives me a little time to fire up the welder and grinder, and finish fabbing that new cocking arm (I haven't forgotten you, dookieboy.)
Paul, when I finally got around to cracking open the receiver of one of my shotties and looked at the internals, I was surprised at just how sturdy the cylinder and piston looked. They look to be cast from a good, dense tool-grade nylon. I'll try shimming the spring. My M38 shoots at around 270fps with .20 g BBS, so 30 or so fps more would be appreciated. Thanks for the tip!
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Post by dookieboy on Nov 12, 2007 21:54:25 GMT -5
Ok cool, thanks Gryphon!
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Post by Guinness on Nov 14, 2007 17:36:30 GMT -5
See, this is why I'm not an Engineer-type like you guys  When I read that statement I just scratch my head and think "Tool-Grade Nylon?"  They make tools out of nylon?!?!  ;D Slainte! |
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Post by vanhalen213tx on Nov 14, 2007 17:42:09 GMT -5
My parents don't let me order from forums, but you should start a website, and I would buy one so quick.......
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gryphon
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Post by gryphon on Nov 15, 2007 12:27:21 GMT -5
LOL, Guinness! Not all petro-plastics are equal. Styrene and polyester are brittle, polyethylene and ABS are soft, epoxy is expensive and has chemical stability issues, polyurethanes and acrylics are great but relatively new and pricey, but nylon is a real workhorse. It's tough, light, easily machined, chemically inert, and can be injection-molded. Not only tools, they make replacement BODY PARTS out of nylon now - artificial limbs, hip joint linings, heart valves, skull plates, shunts, meshes, all sorts of "bionic man" stuff. A couple of my buddies must be about 20% stainless steel and nylon by volume now. Some nylons are impregnated with lubricants for use as slide beds on various robotic systems and machine tools; while other nylons are engineered for toughness and are used for gears, switch components, pistons and cylinders, and other places where lightness and durability are needed at a relatively low cost. Restaurant kitchens are packed full of food-grade nylon products.
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Post by Guinness on Nov 15, 2007 12:59:06 GMT -5
;D I hear ya- I was just envisioning a nylon wrench or hammer |
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Post by gryphon on Nov 17, 2007 13:11:07 GMT -5
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Post by Guinness on Nov 20, 2007 21:41:55 GMT -5
Spaseeba!
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Post by Paul on Nov 23, 2007 19:46:38 GMT -5
Godo, I laid my real steel Mosin-Nagant on a sheet of freezer paper and carefully traced its outline; then did the same for the shottie action; then taped the two in layers to my sliding glass patio door so I could use the door like a giant lightbox, allowing me to see how the two would mate; finally, I taped a third sheet of freezer paper over the first two and drew the modifications I would need to make to the shape of the stock in order to fit the shottie action. The Mk 2 mod I'm messing with will eliminate the cocking arm on the front of the receiver, and will allow the stock to be virtually identical to the cross-section of the real ones. I'll post pics as soon as my schedule gives me a little time to fire up the welder and grinder, and finish fabbing that new cocking arm (I haven't forgotten you, dookieboy.) Paul, when I finally got around to cracking open the receiver of one of my shotties and looked at the internals, I was surprised at just how sturdy the cylinder and piston looked. They look to be cast from a good, dense tool-grade nylon. I'll try shimming the spring. My M38 shoots at around 270fps with .20 g BBS, so 30 or so fps more would be appreciated. Thanks for the tip! No Problem, Glad to help! ~Paul |
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Post by grasshopper257 on Feb 2, 2008 20:54:57 GMT -5
wow dude really nice id really love to see a cheap sniper made into a 91/30 that would really be something
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Post by 101starmyairborne on Jun 19, 2009 17:25:41 GMT -5
Amazing. I have 2 of those shotguns lying around. By the end of next week I'll have 2 M38. Incredible |
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Post by joeska on Aug 5, 2009 14:32:12 GMT -5
What kind of stock did you use for the mosin id buy one in a heart beat!
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Post by kalbs on Nov 9, 2009 19:13:34 GMT -5
Testing:
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Post by squirrelcat on Nov 29, 2009 0:34:43 GMT -5
Now could this conversion be done with no stock at all...mabey cut down the plastic stock and fill with bondo. Hell Ive got three of these I'll be back in about 3 or 4 days with the results. |
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Post by soldatjakob on Dec 5, 2009 23:06:39 GMT -5
can the same concept of the M38 be applied to a 91/30?
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Post by joeska on Dec 6, 2009 12:50:57 GMT -5
I concure.
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Post by squirrelcat on Dec 23, 2009 8:11:09 GMT -5
Well, I have been dabbing around and i think it could...I am doing the carbine right now with a plastic stock instead of a wood stock its coming along great!!!  |
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Dec 23, 2009 13:00:21 GMT -5
Sounds interesting squirrelcat, make sure to get some pictures up on here.
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Post by squirrelcat on Dec 23, 2009 14:14:41 GMT -5
Sounds interesting squirrelcat, make sure to get some pictures up on here. Thank you and yes I plan to finish and field it by the 2nd of january and if it works out well im gonna throw quite a few more together to help start up new players in VA with a nice, cheap, secondary bolt action |
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Post by yeno34 on Jan 11, 2010 23:03:21 GMT -5
nice if you sold it how much would you sell it for
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