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Post by Fusilier on Apr 2, 2010 11:00:45 GMT -5
Some interesting GBB gun technology has been developed of late and I see no reason why some of this engineering cannot be used in developing a good WW2 Gas fired rifle or smg. KJ Works of Taiwan has released some excellent GBB co2 pistols that fire in the 380 fps range while WE and their GBB M4 series are setting new standards. I say use the Tanaka style Gas tech for bolt actions like Enfields, Kars, Mosin's and etc. Use KJ Works co2 GBB tech design for M1 Carbines and smg's and WE blowback system design for M1 garands and other Semi-auto rifles. Save the AEG for the MG's Whatever they come up with, I pray they stay clear of ejecting shells and empty clips. It's not practical for game play. >> I agree about the Tanaka system,BUT, its kinda pricey with extra mags at well over $50 a pop. Tanaka guns are also very pricey at over $400-500 also,which puts it way out of most of the younger players price range. There must be a happy medium we can reach.
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Post by specimenhex on Apr 2, 2010 11:32:45 GMT -5
springer bolties, GBB semi-auto rifles and carbines, and AEG automatics would be the most logical
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Post by Fusilier on Apr 2, 2010 11:45:11 GMT -5
springer bolties, GBB semi-auto rifles and carbines, and AEG automatics would be the most logical >> You're right. My question is,they make all these modern bolt sniper rifles,why not go from there and do 98's,Enfields or Mosins?? Seems like a no brainer to me. But Adler is right,supply and demand. Everyone wants the latest and greatest assault weapon. i'm guilty of this as well.I recently picked up WE's GBB M-4 and SCAR,love them! And also a GBB AK thats cool. I want to dump ALL my modern weapons and concentrate on WW2.
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Post by kalbs on Apr 2, 2010 11:50:28 GMT -5
I agree about the Tanaka system,BUT, its kinda pricey with extra mags at well over $50 a pop. Tanaka guns are also very pricey at over $400-500 also,which puts it way out of most of the younger players price range. There must be a happy medium we can reach. Tanaka as a brand is pricey but the system is not. The basic system is used in other rifles for much less. The Problem with any decent gas gun however is the magazine price. I too love modern guns and especially ones with wood furniture.
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Post by Lev on Apr 2, 2010 17:26:53 GMT -5
GBBs suck in cold weather too. That's something we folks in the Midwest have a lot of experience with
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Apr 2, 2010 18:18:20 GMT -5
Yea it would be nice if someone made (all above what kalbs said) but we also need affordable(under $300) AEG's and Springers.
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Post by CptJericho on Apr 2, 2010 21:57:54 GMT -5
I wish they would just run a batch of Springfields, Kar98ks, Lee Enfields, and Mosin Nagants, just to test the WWII waters. They dont even have to even change the internals, just the externals... Oh yeah Fusilier congrats on reaching Sergeant!
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Post by Fusilier on Apr 2, 2010 23:27:38 GMT -5
I wish they would just run a batch of Springfields, Kar98ks, Lee Enfields, and Mosin Nagants, just to test the WWII waters. They dont even have to even change the internals, just the externals... Oh yeah Fusilier congrats on reaching Sergeant! >> Wow! I finally reached my real life rank! LOL! ;D
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Post by dave on Apr 3, 2010 9:19:16 GMT -5
Well if you want to start emailing ARES heres there contact info www.aresairsoft.com/contacts.htmlI just sent this message to this address GERNERAL ENQUIRIES : [ e-mail: info@aresairsoft.com ] Subject: M1 Garand, Kar98, Lee Enfield, Msin Nagant
Hello, I think your company should make Airsoft M1 Garands, Kar98s, Lee Enfields, and Mosin Nagants. There is Definitely a demand for them. I know people who would be interested. -David Pawlowski
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Post by CptJericho on Apr 3, 2010 11:08:57 GMT -5
Does anyone know the contact for AGM or CYMA, im thinking that those would be the ones that would most likely make the guns.
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Post by dave on Apr 3, 2010 11:12:25 GMT -5
AGM apparently has no homepage, probably due to the legal issues of airsoft in China. Apparantly this used to be cyma's website, but it's no longer there. cymawell.com/
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Post by kalbs on Apr 3, 2010 11:20:55 GMT -5
All china airsoft manufacturer sites have been taken even off the trading sites.
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Post by specimenhex on Apr 3, 2010 15:24:32 GMT -5
I wish they would just run a batch of Springfields, Kar98ks, Lee Enfields, and Mosin Nagants, just to test the WWII waters. They dont even have to even change the internals, just the externals... :' Exactly what i have been thinking for months. Just made some springers with bar10 or vsr internals. Doesn't seem a big risk at all IMO, certainly no more a risk than coming out with new AK or AR variants and thinking people will buy them just because they are slightly different than the ones they already own.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 3, 2010 20:44:29 GMT -5
Even doing simple vacume molds for say a Springfield and the supporting parts would be $15,000 to $20,000 even in China. How many do you have to sell before it starts to make sense? There is a reason these things aren't coming out in droves folks. I'm delighted to finally start seeing some new things come out. What I don't think they realize is they could sell them at a sufficient premium to recoupo their upfront faster than a normal high volume model like an AK variant or an M16. Because it's a limited market with limited appeal my guess is they'd sell nearly as many of them at $275.00 than they would at $125.00 Something for them to consider.
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Post by specimenhex on Apr 3, 2010 20:56:34 GMT -5
I agree, I know I would pay $275.00 for a good skirmishable kar98, springfield, lee enfield, mosin, or arisaka without a second thought.
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Post by CptJericho on Apr 3, 2010 22:59:01 GMT -5
Same here! ;D
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Post by ash on Apr 4, 2010 6:55:37 GMT -5
I sent a similar email to Ares. Just limited myself to suggesting an electric Garand and springer Lee Enfield and K98s, and re-iterating that the sort of people who want them want skirmishable models, rather than guns like the Marushin M1s or the shell ejecting K98s.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Apr 4, 2010 7:06:29 GMT -5
To bad I couldn't work faster on my custom rifles. I could make a difference on the WWII Airsoft market if I could make at least 1 a week. Sadly it takes me almost 2 months to complete one order.
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Post by CptJericho on Apr 4, 2010 10:51:23 GMT -5
Maybe you could hire some people to help you ;D
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Post by hairy apple on Apr 4, 2010 14:01:46 GMT -5
To bad I couldn't work faster on my custom rifles. I could make a difference on the WWII Airsoft market if I could make at least 1 a week. Sadly it takes me almost 2 months to complete one order. I have condidered for a while now building a batch of M1903 or a3 rifles. I've got a lot of PM since I build the one for myself a few months ago. I certainly have the time, as I work part time right now and at night no less. I just wonder if it would be worth it. People are used to paying for Chinese guns these days and I dought most people would want to pay for what a custom springfield would cost. We'll see what I come up with in the next few weeks, but I feel you pain Tom, one a week wouldn't be too hard for me, it's the start up costs that are killer for me.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Apr 4, 2010 14:06:03 GMT -5
If you could get out for $400 or less I am sure you would have no problem finding customers. I am backordered till September and am not taking orders anymore because I want to move onto a new project after the summer. There's definitely a market for Springfields I have had people ask me about making one which I plan to do. However if you want to step in and do them I'd be glad to do something else. The more people offering custom WW2 guns the better. I am behind and stuck on two orders which I've had forever It has really slowed me down. Once I get those old hatchets out of the way I'll be able to go much faster I think.
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Post by CptJericho on Apr 4, 2010 14:13:49 GMT -5
Im probably going to order one of your springfields once you start making them.
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Post by jerseyite on Apr 11, 2010 10:23:55 GMT -5
As far as guns I personally want to get made, I only really want some nice 60$ co2 versions of the sidearms, 1911A1, Hi-Power, Luger, P38, Tokarev, and on everything else I agree with the rifles
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Post by specimenhex on Apr 11, 2010 14:54:12 GMT -5
They won't be $60 but the Hi-Power and P38 are coming from WE, and there is a Tokarev coming from SRC apparently (will take forever to come out like their MP41 i suspect), and 1911's are out from nearly every company.
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Post by jerseyite on Apr 11, 2010 15:33:32 GMT -5
I know but I think it'd be cool for someone to make a nice reliable, nbb, co2 pistol. Something that doesn't require too much maintenance and won't break the bank. I will probably buy a KJW 1911A1 sometime soon when I get the cash though
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Post by specimenhex on Apr 11, 2010 15:51:41 GMT -5
I have one of those Co2 LJW 1911's, they are great, had it a year and half and had no problems, only thing about it i don't like is that the outer barrel is a bit too long.
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Post by specimenhex on Apr 13, 2010 4:54:17 GMT -5
Sorry to double post, but I thought of a couple of things I would like to see come out that others may agree with. A metal lower receiver for the TM and Cyma Thompson's and for CAW to restock the 1928 conversion kits they used to offer.
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Post by shadycadence on Apr 13, 2010 6:31:14 GMT -5
The problem with CO2 pistols/guns is that they are not consistent. Set one in the sun for an hour or so, and the first round will come out at about 500fps...Dodgy, man. Real dodgy.
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Post by ltkuribayashi on May 20, 2010 19:37:40 GMT -5
I realize that the demand for these is really small, but it would be cool to see them anyway- a japanese type 100, a BREN, some other bolt actions (mosin-nagant, arisaka, lee-enfeild), and some russian machine gun. (degtyarev?)
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Post by maxim on May 21, 2010 4:10:41 GMT -5
Actually, for bolt action rifles, what you guys prefer?
Tanaka Gas system, or springer?
Max
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